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Iran arms Hezbollah ahead of wider conflict with Israel
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Iran needs to stay the hell out of this. The more they're involved, the more Israel bombs their neighbors.
Lebanon was at relative peace until Hezbollah started stirring shit with Israel. Now I feel like it's going to hit the fan. And Lebanon really doesn't need this right now.
Iran sure wasn't doing hot a few months ago but right now America and israel are literal (not figurative) Nazis in their Jewish Ubermensch policy. Making Iran a far superior country in terms of human rights.
Being forced to put on a head scarf is far better than having your entire family blown up and buried beneath the rubble. This is objectively true as much as you don't want to admit it.
Once again the comparison to Hitler fits perfectly in every way. Did we lose many people by fighting against the Nazis? Should we thus not have done it because fighting bad?
The difference between us is that I realize the Americans aren't going to stop their Nazi campaign by asking nicely. And waiting for the ZioNazis to multiply and want to expand their Lebensraum even more sure as hell isn't going to lead to peace.
Absolutely nothing is going to improve if the Arabs don't fight for their right to exist. Israel has already stated that they just want to keep stealing land past Gaza and the West Bank. They want to colonize Lebanon (which they did before Hezbollah beat their Nazi ass out of there) and Jordan is of course nice and close while we're already there.
You're completely bonkers to think Iran is superior. Israel might be acting like the Nazis, but the shit the middle East endured because of Iran is extremely bad.
You need to wake up my friend.
Yeah bro a head scarf is way worse than mass murdering children.
It's time for you to wake up.
Saying that you're oversimplifying would be an understatement.
Iran is murdering children for not wearing a head scarf...
Missile and bombs are never the answer, that should be pretty clear, American politicians get some kind of orgasm by destabilizing and killing hundreds of thousands of people every so often, summon Netanyahu for war crimes and all other fucks that support him
Remind me how they stopped Hitler. Did they ask him nicely?
The ZioNazis will never stop their genocidal campaign with diplomacy that much is clear to anyone paying attention the last 80 years.
Hitler stopped himself lol.
With enough pressure, which, contrary to propaganda articles, the US is not applying any pressure at all on israel.
Look I get it, and you're probably right, but this world doesn't work in that way.
The US just side-stepped Congress to approve an arms shipment to Israel for the second time this month. Missiles and bombs aren't the answer, but we have to remain consistent.
And what will summoning Netenyahu achieve? He'll go to prison laughing (assuming the US ever let it get that far!), knowing his successor will reap the rewards of an uninhabitable Gaza full of a resentful, broken population fated to become the next Hamas for us to condemn in a few years' time. Israel will win land and space for more illegal settlements that'll go unchallenged because the US will continue to veto any action against them.
I don't agree military action is the answer but in the middle of a war where one side is being heavily supported, it makes little sense why the other side wouldn't seek some extra power as well.
I was all right with your comment until this:
Are you implying everyone there is future hamas?
No, and yes. If Hamas means resistance then sure. I don't see any Palestinians condemning Hamas because Hamas are literally brothers and sons and relatives of the survivors who have been born into oppression and have no option but to rebel or die.
Let's say you have a child, completely innocent, born into this world. Within a few years, he has survived multiple wars, seen violence and death dozens of times, and is already desensitised to mutilation and death by the time he's 7 years old. His family is dead, he's surviving on the good graces of strangers with no prospects for education and no moral compass in the form of parents to guide him on what's right and wrong.
By the time he's 17, he's being recruited into Hamas, who under a 70 year occupation, comprises people just like him, that want a free Palestine where children can be children and oppression isn't the norm. You're not going to reform him without removing his raison d'etre. Until there's Israeli oppression and no free Palestine, he's Hamas.
Do I agree with what Hamas did on October 7th? No. But in all forms of media and in history, people who are oppressed and free themselves from imprisonment and oppression are seen as heroes (if they're imprisoned unjustly, of course!), regardless of the number of people they kill in order to achieve their goals (like blowing up a Death Star, killing everyone on it).
The Star Wars' rebel alliance is an example. So is Katniss in Hunger Games or the Na'Vi in the Avatar movies. In my mind there's little difference between them. We don't condemn them as terrorists so why is Hamas different?
I am a Neanderthal when it comes to games so I don’t really understand the analogy, but I do feel like we are somewhat on the same page now, but I don’t really see hamas as a ‘hero’ sure you could argue that they are the byproduct of Israels brutality and want to free themselves, but I feel like killing/torturing even one innocent person is too many, I would be completely fine if they blew up the IDF.
Similarly I don’t think Palestinians don’t condemn hamas (although my guess is a lot of them do) because they are the good guys, but because they literally have no option and are too busy trying to save their lives than trying to dissect which side is wrong or right
I hate to be the devil's advocate, but he's got a good point on that one. You don't think anyone is Gaza will ever try to get revenge for what Israel did?
If Iran gets involved, don't you think the US will sit idly by? You don't think anyone isn't going to declare war on each other and that it might create a larger conflict?
You're right, but if we can't hold the oppressors accountable why are we drawing the line at the oppressed responding?
There is absolutely no parallel to make between these two conflicts other than Russia's cruelty towards Ukrainians.