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[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago

It's sad that every post the top level comments are these low effort posts. I was really hoping posters like you would just stay with reddit.

[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's sad that every thread at some point has these low effort complaints. I was really hoping you would just stop being boring as hell.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I agree with him, though.

Some of you people are reddit-brained beyond repair.

[-] 1luv8008135@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

You people? The fuck do you mean you people? Were you born out the arsehole of Christ himself? Get the fuck outta here with your holier than thou self righteousness. This is a free and open public forum. Don’t like it? Fuck off elsewhere. Poop

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago
[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

You don't have a "case," you have an opinion that amounts to no-true-Scotsman. If any of these posts are "Reddit brained," but yours is somehow not, then "Reddit brained" is an empty concept you fill with whatever you don't like. Your post, like the ones you're criticizing, is short, low-effort, unfriendly, critical, and contributes nothing to the discussion. You're just expressing the opinion that you're unhappy - and, as far as I can tell, no one asked. If you're allowed to post your irrelevant, negative opinion, then why aren't they?

If you don't like other people, with different motives, interests, and moods, joining your social media platforms, I have bad news.

Although, this is the fediverse - you could make your own server and just defederate every time you're about to make a post like you did here. The rest of us would be grateful to see less toxicity around here.

[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Don't be obtuse, you know exactly what they meant: low effort "quippy," dare I say it: Whedon-esque comments, that you can predict before even opening the comments.

[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

I'm not being obtuse, I'm pointing out that that person is full of shit. His/her "contribution" is just as garbage as the posts they criticized.

[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

But I really really agree with it. I'd like to see the culture around here step up a little bit. Circlejerks and shitposting communities are one thing, but not everything has to be a joke. And certainly not the same joke, over and over again and again.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

I agree with him, though. It was much better on Nibiru watching human gladiators fighting Mi-Go in the death pit.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 40 points 11 months ago

If we can’t joke about serious current events in our nerdy little federated corner of the internet, then what is life even for?

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Producing value for the ruling class, idiot.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

Dang it, you caught me Lemmying at work again!

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

At least you're a useful idiot!

It is those useless idiots that really have a hard go of it.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

I guess I just find it sad that low effort infinitely recycled jokes are what make it to the top, when we can actually have a decent discussion about something.

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

The reason they make it to the top is precisely because they are low-effort and infinitely recycled. Many different users think of them as a response, then see the comment and upvote it because "same". It's not that the joke is good or not, it's that I thought of it and it was already there, so have an upvote.

If you want a decent discussion about something, maybe replying to a low-effort joke response isn't the way to go about it. The great thing about the Fediverse is that you yourself choose what to interact with and what to ignore. If you are interacting with something you'd rather ignore, maybe that's something to ponder on a personal level.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

My problem is that it just begets more low effort posts; if people see that by making these low level comments, they are going to be rewarded with attention, then it just encourages more of that.

Additionally, on top of that, if people see that putting effort into posting thoughtful responses doesn't get the same reward, they are less likely to do so.

Ive seen it happen numerous times on reddit where small niche subs were originally very good with mostly high quality conversations and discussions, but eventually those original people got crowded out by the influx of low level posts, and many of the people simple left (it was kind of like how the universe or TrueReddit subs came about).

I get there isn't much to be done about it, or at least I can't think of it, but I still think it's important to bemoan something that is actually bad for high quality discussions.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Dude you're at a circus crying about all the clowns.

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

something that is actually bad for high quality discussions

This is purely a matter of opinion, proven by the fact that, not only do I have no issue with a joke comment thrown around in serious posts, I prefer the minor chuckle as a break from the soul-crushing reality that is everyday news.

I'll, once gain, point to the fact that you are the one choosing to engage these comments. It takes more effort to downvote, and immensely more effort to type out a reply, than it does to just scroll on by. When I walk into my local 7-11 to get down on a Coke-Banana Slurpee and some Takis, I don't start bitching and moaning about the fake penis enlargement pills and trucker speed I see along the way. I head to what I'm interested in, pay the man, and make like a baby.

The world is full of shit I don't want to deal with and would rather not see, but I don't control the rest of the world. Learn how to make peace with that and you'll be a lot happier.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I’ll, once gain, point to the fact that you are the one choosing to engage these comments.

Already addressed, I think it brings down the level of discussion overall, which you just handwaved away as opinion. But if it's my opinion, then shouldn't I speak up? And if you disagree with the reason I'm posting, shouldn't you take your own advice and simply move on rather than trying to correct me?

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

But if it's my opinion, then shouldn't I speak up?

Because opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink. Throwing your opinion out there when no one asked for it is like breaking wind because you appreciate your own brand. And I will admit, guilty as charged.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago

I come here for both, and I tend to find both.

I get what you’re saying, and if it’s a matter of the low effort snarky/funny stuff rising to the top because of upvotes, that’s probably a systemic problem. Short quick posts will have more people read them to completion, so that probably makes upvotes more likely.

However, I bet thoughtful comments also get rewarded with further discussion in replies.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

, I bet thoughtful comments also get rewarded with further discussion in replies.

If they agree with the general opinion, sure they won't get buried, but you still have to wade through the shit to get to them.

But if it's a dissenting opinion, even if it makes logical sense, or even just has the facts straight, it will get buried.

I just miss the days that the internet wasn't just snarky low effort jokes and memes and you could actually find decent discussions.

[-] Lurker@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

They are. In other comments. Some comments are just bad jokes. You can scroll past if they upset you.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

God forbid the guy blocks users so he doesn't see "low effort" comments.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You can do it, that doesn't mean people have to like it.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Thank you for your thoughtful contribution in furthering this conversation, and your exemplary interpersonal skills.

[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

It's exactly the kind of cynical doomerism I was looking to get away from

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