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How so? They're flopping between two parties just like the current generation of voters.
Watch the reactions when I type this:
Vote third party.
The only way voting third party works is if we get rid of "first to the pole" and instead used something like "ranked choice" voting.
Yeah but that's not in the interest of the current duopoly. They're not gonna shoot themselves in the foot as long as they keep getting votes doing this
But voting third party doesn't actually accomplish anything. Take it from someone who did it for decades. It doesn't shake up or change the system, it just perpetuates the minority rule set up by Project Redmap.
The right way to do it is to vote your conscience locally, until there is enough support at higher levels. Skipping right to voting for third party presidential candidates is simply naive, I'm afraid.
Edit: Steve Hofstetter lays it out well (I wish I could find this one elsewhere) https://m.facebook.com/stevehofstetter/videos/why-voting-third-party-for-president-makes-no-sense/359024631794244/
Same shit boomers say. So don't blame em.
Dismissing entire groups based on stupid labels is ugly.
What's interesting about this observation is that you have to conclude voting isn't the solution. No matter how you vote, either Democrats or Republicans are going to win in 99% of cases. Every vote you deny to one party to teach them a lesson is an implicit vote for the other party. The counts won't matter so long as one or the other win.
So what's the moral thing to do? In terms of voting on a national scale, you pick the better option. But on a state and local level, vote for a reasonable third party that's investing in growth.
And no, that hasn't been tried before, because none of our current third parties actually want change. They throw away their money at the federal level while rubbing shoulders with oligarchs. We need a party that starts local with a 50 state ground game and then gradually accumulates power through local victories. Creating this party is what we need to figure out what to do.
Be the change you seek or stop blaming boomers cause you're all doing the exact same shit as them.
greens run for local positions near around me but im in a major metropolitan area.
People blaming the boomers for the current problems have an overly inflated view of the power of ordinary people.
The people are in power are those to blame, not the ordinary people who chose one of the few options presented to them.
They also have collective power as a voting bloc and group that participates actively in local elections
Voting third party works in other countries but in the American system the only real option is to vote for some fringe wing of one of the parties. Bernie lost with the establishment in the end but he was close. Trump actually won and took over the party. That's the only way to do it.
Boomers have been saying this shit for decades and I'm not seeing them achieve much.
But you keep doing you.
What do you mean? Trump run the country for 4 years, packed the supreme court and banned abortion. If that's not much I don't know what is. Or do you think it doesn't count because that's not what you want to achieve?