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I tried researching it after watching the 'LFG' documentary and most sites were MRA bluster. What did you find out?
USNWT collectively made more than men due to their paid salaries and benefits
You uhhhh, didn't read past the first couple paragraphs did you? It was some rather selective accounting.
Considering that revenue and profits for the men's world cup ABSOLUTELY DWARF the women's world cup this makes perfect sense. And considering the huge gap in revenue and profit a $1.3 million differences is completely acceptable
And then literally everyone else involved said the numbers they presented were false and selective.
Ok what am I missing? In the article the only ppl who presented actual numbers were the USSF and an independent accounting firm.
In the article only the USMNT, Joe Machin, and the rep for the USNWT disagree but have no proof
As for how their pay struck actually works:
For the women, there are various revenue streams. Contracted players have a base pay of $100,000 per year. There are also at least 22 players who are allocated to National Women's Soccer League teams. Tier 1 players -- of which there must be at least 11 -- make an additional $67,500 per year, while the Tier 2 players make $62,500 per year. These players receive annual salary bumps of $2,500. The USSF, namely the USWNT manager, decides which players will receive Tier 1 or Tier 2 status. The women also have a variety of incentive-based bonuses written into their CBA to cover items such as win bonuses in friendlies, qualifying for the World Cup, winning the World Cup, and so on.
• Pay for non-contract USWNT players is governed by seniority. A player making her eighth or more WNT camp appearance receives $4,000 per call-up. A player called in making less than her eighth appearance receives $3,500 per call-up. These players also participate in the various win bonuses.
• The men are paid in similar fashion to non-contract USWNT players, though their appearance fees and bonuses in most cases are considerably higher. For example, making a World Cup team will net a men's player $68,750. A women's player will make $37,500 for making the World Cup squad. A win by the USMNT against a team outside the top 25 in the FIFA rankings will result in each player getting a bonus of $9,375, and a loss will result in a payment of $5,000. For the women, a victory against a team ranked outside the top eight brings each player $5,250, and they get nothing for a loss.
• How does this shake out in terms of total pay? It varies from year to year, based on each team's respective World Cup cycle. The most recent filing for 2018 saw only USWNT players among the federation's top-paid employees. But keep in mind that 2018 was a year in which the men were expected to play in the World Cup but didn't because they failed to qualify for the first time since 1986. Had the team made the tournament, the pay of several men's players would likely have far exceeded that of their female counterparts
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37582214/defining-pay-gaps-stake-sides
In short the men's team only makes more if they actually win. They're essentially contractors while tiered women players are salaried.
Also all of this was a collective bargaining agreement between the men's and women's players unions