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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

President Joe Biden goes into next year's election with a vexing challenge: Just as the U.S. economy is getting stronger, people are still feeling horrible about it.

Pollsters and economists say there has never been as wide a gap between the underlying health of the economy and public perception. The divergence could be a decisive factor in whether the Democrat secures a second term next year. Republicans are seizing on the dissatisfaction to skewer Biden, while the White House is finding less success as it tries to highlight economic progress.

“Things are getting better and people think things are going to get worse — and that’s the most dangerous piece of this," said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake, who has worked with Biden. Lake said voters no longer want to just see inflation rates fall — rather, they want an outright decline in prices, something that last happened on a large scale during the Great Depression.

“Honestly, I’m kind of mystified by it,” she said.

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago

When people say they’re not happy about the economy, this is the shit they’re talking about, not statistics.

Ordinary people get fucked in this economy, and there isn’t any party that can do anything about it.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago
[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

They’d like to do something about it. But they can’t get elected.

Unless there’s something else they’re planning.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

'Murica had a chance in 2016 but the DNC decided "nah".

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I’ll say it an umpteenth time: good fash/bad fash afab.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Bernie would have won, and the last 8 years would have been vastly different.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Al Gore ran and would have won but republicans stole that one. It’s more complex than “DNC is icky”

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

The DNC manipulated the vote between Clinton and Bernie so Clinton would win the nomination.

They're not "icky" ... they're manipulative assholes.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago
[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

But they’re Rainbow Fascists, so they’re better than Trump… right? Right??

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Except they didn’t manipulate the vote and you’re just quoting trump:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926247543801044993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fblog-briefing-room%2F358565-trump-dnc-tried-to-illegally-steal-primary-from-sanders

Best there was was a fundraising agreement that favored the established candidate, could have done better but that’s not manipulating the vote unless you’re an idiot.

Meanwhile Bernie’s caucuses with fascists? You sound like you have no grasp Of the world because anyone less than pure is a facist to you while actual fascist get voted in because of you ignorance and apathy.

Again Bernie endorses and caucuses with democrats. Because they rigged the vote? You realize how aligned he is with the dem party and works with their establishment. So he’s a fascist too?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Again Bernie endorses and caucuses with democrats. Because they rigged the vote? You realize how aligned he is with the dem party and works with their establishment. So he’s a fascist too?

Along with refusing to endorse a ceasefire, Bernie is just proving Stalin correct: social democracy is the leftwing of fascism.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bernie refuses to oppose genocide Gaza because he refuses to endorse a ceasefire. This is a fact, regardless of whatever handwringing he's doing to pretend like this isn't an obvious betrayal. The Squad endorsed a ceasefire. Why won't he?

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago
[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[-] Maeve@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

No worries. I have a hard time reading between the lines, myself.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

No, if Bernie somehow won the nomination in 2016 then Hilary would have endorsed Trump to stop socialism.

Never underestimate Democrats.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Politics literally sets the rules. If you can get an elected majority you can certainly do something about it.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

To fix things we would need one party to take over 153 separate branches of government.

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

What could possibly go wrong with a one-party state?

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