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Tesla Cybertruck's stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla's Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck's stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.

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[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 165 points 1 year ago

Gonna be real fun to see the crash test rating.

Without crumple zones, all of the kinetic energy goes into the occupants.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 79 points 1 year ago

OTOH it weighs almost 7000lbs (~3100kg) so it's going to plow through most of everything with its sheer mass.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 102 points 1 year ago

You'd be surprised how much a concrete pillar holding up an overpass can actually take. They don't break like in the movies, they are specifically designed to take big truck impacts and not fail. Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago

Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes

Why does that sound delicious 😭

[-] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

It is! In a pressure cooker, you can cook beets in a basket over a layer of potatoes and garlic cloves. The beet drippings turn the potatoes pinkish-red. Super fun for kids.

[-] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

But has the pressure cooker been crash tested

[-] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Or you can just hang out under a highway overpass with a scoop and a cooler

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

Free range. Sustainable harvest. Recycling. Sounds good!

[-] Spur4383@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

case in point

We have barriers good enough to stop a fully-loaded semi in effectively zero distance.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Go hit a 10"+ tree in a pickup and see how fast you stop. You can wander over and pick the engine up when it flies out the hood. The tree will loose some bark.

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Been there, done that. 0/10. Do not recommend.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Same, hit a small (maybe 5") tree going about 60mph. Came to a complete stop immediately and put my head through the windshield. We went and peeled the license plate off the tree the next day.

I guess it put a little mark on the tree but it was basically fine, completely destroyed the car though.

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it was a rather large tree that I hit at about 100km/h (+60mph). Tree was fine. Car, not so much. The ambulance ride was nice though, and the first responders thought we were extremely lucky to be alive.
Wear your seat belts kids.

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago

I thought a car had to have that before it went on sale?

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Believe it or not in the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance in the USA. There is no specific government body that has a standardized test that they have to pass to be made legal. The manufacture gets to make that decision themselves, then if there is an issue that the government finds later they can be pulled from the road.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I hope they get pulled from the road. Problem is, he'll just bribe some government officials

[-] Chreutz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I know it's fun to bash Tesla every now and then for their ridiculous things.

But do you really think, after making 4 vehicles with top of the line safety, that they will just say 'eh, fuck it' with the cybertruck?

It's an aluminum casting base construction, just like the Model Y, so why would there be no crumble zones?

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Because they wanted it to be bullet proof.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

The safety standards are a regulatory requirement. They have to pass the same tests as any other vehicle.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Not in the US. We don’t have many safety regulations on vehicles and crash tests are not mandatory.

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Correct. Especially large trucks are further exempted.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

There are crumple zones, they’re just not as big as those in competing trucks. But yeah, the safety comparison is probably negligible, what really makes me think it’s a bad truck is the design of the bed. It’s got slanted walls. That really limits what you can haul and how you can get it into the bed.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

Let's be real. No one is hauling anything in this truck. In my experience the more expensive truckk the less its actually used for anything.

The entire cybertruck fleet hauling completed by 2030 is probably the equivalent to one year of 01 Nissan Frontiers...

[-] Chreutz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah the practicality of the cybertruck is definitely questionable!

[-] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

That actually would be on brand for Musk.

[-] SkyeStarfall 11 points 1 year ago

Really think they will just say 'eh fuck it'

Were talking about Elon here. Yes, I do think so. In addition, don't give too much credit, the other vehicles would always be inherently safer because they're electric.

[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago
[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

That's... computer generated. BeamNG maybe?

[-] yeptemp69420@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm pretty sure that's BeamNG, yeah. That sand looks like a texture from Johnson valley, I'm pretty sure the wall they're hitting is either a gas station or a garage model that was placed on a road, and the skid marks from the tires look the same as they do in BeamNG. You can see body panels and doors clipping through the body of the truck on several occasions, too.

[-] Felix_Bardner@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago

Looked convincing at first, but it felt too clean- Then at 7 seconds in, you can watch a white panel clip straight through the door and windshield lol

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, without a disclaimer and evidence it's modeled correctly it's just straight misinformation at this point.

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[-] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Wow looks unsafe as fuck!!

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah have you seen the footage it’s as stiff as the rod up musks butt hole

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

What makes you think it doesn't have crumple zones?

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.

It’s 4x as thick as current sheet metal used in other vehicles, and twice as thick as the steel bumpers used in old cars that didn’t have crumple zones.

That combined with the fact that they have stated that all of the strength and rigidity for the truck comes from the exoskeleton, that would preclude being able to crumple.

They have not made safety a priority in anything on this monstrosity. The windows are are all laminated and shatterproof, meaning you can’t break them to escape if there’s a fire or you end up underwater and the body is bulletproof meaning that it can’t be torn open with the jaws of life if you need to be extracted.

It’s a giant metal coffin.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.

Bulletproof steel can still crumple. And it does. It's not made of adamantium. It's a completely different type of force. The vehicle was crash-tested a long time ago. Just look at the photos.

E: wow, this guy is sharing straight up disinformation he pulled from his ass and I'm the one being downvoted...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure you should be talking about others sharing disinformation when the crash tests were only released 8 days ago.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a46011736/tesla-cybertruck-crash-test/

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure you should be talking at all considering you don't seem to realize you can actually store footage from events that took place at an earlier date 🙄

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[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Windows will shatter just like any other car window, and a jaws of life would pull apart that tin can no problem.

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