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submitted 1 year ago by GiddyGap@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world

"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

If democracy isn't working for them, why would they vote for it?

Because it can get worse. This seems obvious.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course it can and will. But just like Weimar Germany, the centrist parties (or in this case, the only non-fascist party) are too busy with their heads up their asses (or scare mongering about socialism) instead of solving people's issues. Why would they support the party that will punish the few representatives they have any time they stand up for Muslim issues?

[-] capital@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS WORSE.

This also seems PAINFULLY obvious.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The alternative in this case being "treating people like you need their votes."

The party would rather have Trump than the nightmare scenario of acting like their voters are worth anything.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Look, I can’t keep people from hurting themselves. I will call them morons leading up to and afterwards though.

Same as I did for dipshits in red states losing maternity wards now. /shrug

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You'd rather blame people for a loss than try to win.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I’m simply reminding people of the reality that either the Dem or Rep will win.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

If you need a group of people to vote for you, you need to get their votes.

If you have a scapegoat to blame for any loss, you don't need to do anything to get anyone's votes. You'd rather have the scapegoat.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That has nothing to do with what I said.

You are desperate to say anything except admit I’m right about that simple fact.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The choice is between Biden and Trump, yes. One of them will win, assuming neither dies of old age before then. I never argued otherwise and don't intend to start.

Now that I said the thing that you want, how has that changed the situation? Has that suddenly made this group more likely to vote for Biden?

You get to pretend you won an argument against someone who wasn't arguing against the non-point you kept spamming. Congratulations. It's not me you need to convince. I'm already voting for Biden.

If you need their votes, you need to secure their votes.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I think someone just needs to remind them of how Trump literally tried to stop the transfer of power last time and any “recalibration” the Dems might do will mean FUCK ALL if Trump gets his way next time as there might not be another election.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I think someone just needs to remind them of how Trump literally tried to stop the transfer of power last time

They know that now and are leaving anyway.

any “recalibration” the Dems might do will mean FUCK ALL if Trump gets his way next time as there might not be another election

If Democrats don't adjust before the election, they won't get these voters back. Call them any name you want, it'll make you feel better. Make all the dismissals and accusations you want. But none of that will get them back.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They’ll regret it.

But here we go again. Only way some people learn is by putting their hand back on the hot burner a second time.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They’ll regret it.

Maybe the party should try to get their votes instead. But they'd rather have Trump.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Or they believe they’re doing the right thing. Have you considered that?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Anyone who expects me to believe supporting genocide is the right thing is not worth my continued effort.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's the entire party platform.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Both options keep getting worse and continuing to paly a rigged game isn't worth it. The Republicans might just cheat and win and all.the.Biden capitulation will have been for nothing

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You show me the policies the Democrats have that comes even close to this- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

I mean I don't like the Democrats, but my god... Trump and his people want a one-party state with him as dictator for life and one of his kids succeeding him.

The capitulation would have been for stopping that.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 1 year ago

Don't worry. There will be no shortage of people clutching their pearls and smugly saying they stood up for their ideals by not voting for Democrats, as they ride to concentration camps.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Pft no they'll just continue to blame Democrats. How dare they make you vote for the Republican because they weren't inspiring enough for your vote?

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