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Whats false is the idea that they were already there. Its kind of a weird thing to believe, i feel like you'd be pretty well aware of the famous Jewish diaspora. Theres a reason over 700 thousand palestinians were killed or exiled and it wasnt to make room for people already living there.
What makes it "false" is that it deliberately leaves out multiple other factors that do not fit your narrative of "Israel = evil Jewish colonizers from Europe" and "Palestinians = poor victims being oppressed".
Directly neighbouring Arab and Muslim countries and areas exiled, killed and drove out Jews amounting to more than 850 thousand who went to Israel.
That the people who we call Palestinians today in the area denied the two-state solution at that time because they did not want Israel to exist. They wanted to rather have war instead of getting their own state and share the land.
The animosity and multiple wars that were started against Israel for purely religious and ideologic reasons from the other side as well. The religious zealots aren't only on Israel's side.
There are numerous countries that came into existence by wars and in a similar way as Israel. It's even less of an issue here because it's not even a part of a country which declared independence, there wasn't even a country in the first place!
Israel did not come into existence just because of Zionism. About half of the Jews in Israel are Mizrahim who are native to the area. They had an inferior status in the Islamic society. By your own logic it is understandable that they ultimately pushed back and declared independence after being treated as second class people for generations.
Im sure there were some, but the majority of this was their own choice. It's Zionism, of course they went to the holy land when Israel was formed, that was always the plan.
They were damn right to not want it, it's gone horribly for them. Palestinians opposed Zionism from the beginning as Jews started settling and evicting them from their land.
I always love people saying “they should have just accepted the two state solution and none of this would be going on”. Glad to see they would all willingly hand over 80% of their country and get a shit deal even for the 20% you have left.
Should Ukraine also just let Russia have Crimea? Hell throw in some extra land to sweeten the deal for Russia and there will be peace again in the region.
Honest to God that argument is… interesting to say the least.