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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by _number8_@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

like I went to taco bell and they didn't even have napkins out. they had the other stuff just no napkins, I assume because some fucking ghoul noticed people liked taking them for their cars so now we just don't get napkins! so they can save $100 per quarter rather than provide the barest minimum quality of life features.

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[-] SnotFlickerman 129 points 1 year ago

You load 16 tons, what do you get?

Another day older and deeper in debt

St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go

I owe my soul to the company store

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago

Much as I love that song, it doesn't really apply to the OP question, which is more about companies exploiting their customers rather than their workers.

[-] SnotFlickerman 25 points 1 year ago
[-] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That is what people miss. This is "the system". It starts and ends with government and "we" chose this (I'm Canadian, we have similar issues but not as extreme, yet).

By continually voting in sociopathic narcissistic social climbers as both public and private sector policy makers (think of shareholders and corporate governance boards) we ensure the system is rigged for the top dogs.

The truth is the system could work in the average person's favour very easily but it would mean limiting some personal freedoms; mostly of very, very rich people. It also would require the average person to get off the "everyone is exploiting me, so I need to do that to them first" treadmill.

Many people have never been on that treadmill (never had the chance or donate excess income or time to local food banks, etc).

The very, very rich don't care. They simply maximize the profit in any situation. Put them in prison and they'll give out legal advice for cigarettes and turn that into a burner phone they use to call their Cayman Islands broker.

It's the upper/upper-middle people who will feel the pain as income is redistributed to poverty stricken people. And if we just impose ubi without fixing the "CEO problem" it will simply lead to inflation. Sucess of ubi programs is entirely due to it happening in a local market. Expand globally without fixing capitalism and you get inflation.

A socialist approach that still allows significant room for upwrd mobility (e.g. CEO can make up to 10x minimum wage, as a non-expert guess) with some type of employee representation on the board of large businesses (state imposed labour union) would probably do it.

Then make ubi contingent on minor public service with free daycare that you can use when performing said services (exception if you have more than 2 kids under 12, or are disabled in some way) say two days a week (networking, activity, build resume) would be a brainstorming idea to workshop.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And it seems that "our corporate masters" don't understand that underpaid or laid off people don't have the purchasing power to buy more stuff.

In their relentless pursuit of profits, they are killing off the ability of people to be customers.

[-] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Just give em a subscription then!

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They don’t even give them 50% of meals anymore, for a full shift.

[-] Wootz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I think what this comment is trying to say is that we're headed towards an age that resembles what that song talks about: An age of unfettered capitalism, with a small number of corporation owning so much of the market that they can do what they want with no repercussions.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Okay but that song is from like a century ago and mostly things haven't changed much in that time. Certainly we don't have company stores/scrip anymore, but the grim outlook that song has on the world is still fairly accurate.

[-] jandar_fett@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Bro. We are already there. The tobacco industry sued Australia for fighting to keep graphic pictures and descriptions of lung disease/cancer on cigarette packs and WON. Against the entire fucking government of Australia.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

the song is about debt bondage from last century lol look up Company Towns

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

the song was about company towns where the laborers were paid in store credit instead of wages. you'd work, but never pay off debts, since it all went back to the companies who set the prices for everything you buy, and so they were able to keep you on a tight leash.

That's how it feels like things are going now. a few companies own everything, pay our wages, and set our prices. we cannot get ahead.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I love Joe Vs. The Volcano (where this song is featured) because it really encapsulates the idea of the song.

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