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Courts Strike Down Gun Control Measures in Two States
(www.nytimes.com)
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As a gun owner myself, I support the licensing, the high capacity mags ban won't do a damn thing though. If you've ever seen a 10rd 556 mag it's small as hell and you can stuff lots in pockets and such. It won't stop a damn thing, especially with coward cops who just listen to the action and do nothing.
if that's what it takes then fine but why can't we come up with shit that actually makes sense instead of these 'whatever we can get' stuff. I realize republican trash makes that nigh impossible though. Fucking dumb as hell
I also support licensing as a gun owner, but banning anything isn't going to do a damn thing. There's so much pointless semantics in these gun control proposals.
But let's ban abortion because that will fix everything.
Putting words in my mouth? I never said anything about abortion. But fwiw, I'm against banning abortion too. I hate how everyone assumes I'm a braindead conservative when I give the slightest hint that I'm pro-gun (even sensibly).
Suggesting licensing and then saying you're a gun owner makes me feel like you own a red rider or you're completely ignorant of what licensing would be used to keep people from exercising their rights.. mainly would be used against minorities as it has been in the past.
Cool so I guess we should just do nothing then, huh?
The reasons I am for licensing is that I want people to be able to keep their guns and preserve the right to self defense, but you're an idiot if you don't think gun violence is a problem that needs attention. Licensing will (ideally) help to prevent gun misuse, bring stronger repercussions to those who are irresponsible with firearms, and overall keep things in check. I am aware that restrictions can be used to keep certain people from exercising their rights... and that is an issue, but surprise, conservatives have been doing that too (saw an article about it today, forgot which city / state it was, but basically they were preventing lefties from owning guns). We're in deep shit with how many guns are in the US and bans are obviously not going to work. So if licensing isn't the play, then what the fuck do you suggest, Mr. know-it-all?
Licensing is not going to fix our gun violence. It's not going to solve anything you just listed, which also has a very small death rate. 2/3rds of our gun deaths a year are suicides, that last 3rd makes up everything else. 85%+ of that last 3rd is gang and drug violence...and that last 15% includes, domestic, police, NDs, mass shootings and everything else. If we really want to solve our violence issue we need to fix our society. We can start with:
Single payer healthcare
Ending the War on Drugs
Ending Qualified immunity
Properly funding our schools and not just rich white suburb schools.
Build more schools and hire more teachers for proper pay so the class room sizes aren't 30-40 kids for one teacher.
UBI (at least start talking about it) once AI takes over most of the blue collar jobs.
End for profit prisons
Enforce the laws already on the books
Make sure there are safety nets for poor families so the kids don't turn to violence/gangs to survive.
Increase the minimum wage
Recreate our mental healthcare so kids don't turn to the internet for support. And to help veterans not end up as a suicide number.
Actively make a law to solidify Pro-choice rights. More unwanted children do not help our situation.
Banning Insider Trading for Congress
Term limits
Ranked Choice Voting so we can move away from a 2 party system
Oh sure, gun deaths aren't a problem as long as they're suicides or gang violence.
Do you realize how dumb that is? It's all part of the same problem: access to and misuse of firearms.
Those lives matter and minimizing them as you've done is awful.
Cool way to ignore what I wrote...
Why do bans work in pretty much all other developed countries?
Because other developed countries are just that... developed...they have safety nets, and single payer healthcare...and don't lock up millions of people...they also don't have and have never had 500+ million firearms in civilian hands.
The correct answer... and whenver its given, you'll never see an answer...
All we need to do is severely restrict ammo sales to individuals. Guns are useless without rounds.
As long as people have near unlimited access to ammo, they'll always find a different gun or magazine to use that gets around certain gun bans.
The real gun nuts invest heavily in ammo manufacturing and reloading. And not all states will comply.
Ah the old Chris Rock technique
"That's right five thousand dollar bullets..."