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Craig Sumner Elliott, 68, allegedly shot Antonio Garcia Avalos, 40, in incident in Orange county

A California jogger was charged this week in the killing of a homeless man who was blocking the sidewalk.

Craig Sumner Elliott, 68, was jogging with his two dogs and pushing a cart on 28 September when he came across Antonio Garcia Avalos, 40, who was sleeping in the middle of the sidewalk, prosecutors in Orange county, California, said.

Elliott allegedly tried to wake Avalos by nudging him with the pushcart, whereupon Avalos started yelling at Elliott to leave him alone.

Elliott, who allegedly filmed their encounter, then brought a handgun out of his cart, prosecutors charged, adding that when Avalos stood and threw a shoe at Elliott, he ducked and responded by shooting Avalos three times.

Avalos subsequently died from his injuries. Elliott, who does have an active concealed carry permit issued by the local sheriff’s office, was arrested on 17 November in the incident.

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[-] Augustiner@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Man is almost 70 and still jogging and shooting homeless people while filming it! Must have been a wild life.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago

He had two dogs and was pushing a cart that carried his gun...

Whatever he was doing, it wasn't jogging.

And him taking his phone out to record himself kicking the other man and yelling at him first, was likely only because he was hoping to antagonize a homeless person so he could "defend himself".

He's got to be one of those idiots who believe the "stand your ground" bullshit.

You can't start kicking a sleeping man and then claim you're a victim, but he's gonna try

[-] yenahmik@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

That was my first thought, reading the article. There's no way he was just jogging. What kind of jogger takes a cart with them? I've never seen something like that, and I see a lot of joggers in my area.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

When the story first broke, most articles called him a dog walker.

Anything to not make it obvious it's another rage addicted boomer I guess

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

People with children in strollers. Other than that, I've never seen it either.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Y’all telling me you ain’t ever seen someone with a stroller and a small dog in it? I see something like that at least twice a year. Guy probably has two small dogs and was pushing them in the cart if anything. He gets exercise, they get out of the house and to sniff around.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

No, or at least not that I remember. I've seen plenty of people running with their dogs, but the dogs are on foot too.

[-] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

He's 68, it's probably more of a Walker with a basket on it. I think identifying him as a "jogger" is a generous term. I assume it's just an old man walking his dogs around the neighborhood.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. This is one of the big problems with so many people carrying guns. There are many shitty people looking for a reason to use them.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

He allegedly nudged the guy illegally blocking the sidewalk who responded by trying to assault an old man. Do you have a copy of the video I could not find one.

[-] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

When the guy didn't move after he "nudged" him with his cart (I would bet money that it was harder than a nudge but whatever) he really couldn't just go around onto the street? No, he would have rather filmed himself fighting with someone than just be a normal person.

No, you shouldn't block a sidewalk. No, you shouldn't have to walk in the street with your dogs. Fine. But what you can do is pick your fucking battles and be the bigger person.

There's no sane reason to condone murdering another human being instead of taking a step to the right.

[-] QHC@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Sounds like the homeless guy was "assaulted" first.

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You wake up to someone "nudging" you with their "cart" and expect not to be annoyed? Or, not to think they are trying to run the "cart" over you? Oh, and they have two (likely full-size) dogs with them. Would you really not go into fight-or-flight mode, really??? ... Really?

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Have you noticed how most homeless folks most places are not directly obstructing the sidewalk. Instead they are of to the side, in a doorway, in a green space. Anywhere they wont directly get stepped on, woken up, or rousted. If you directly block the sidewalk you might expect to have some hassle and not react by attempting to assault people by throwing your shoes at their head.

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