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[-] Glowstick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

His comment rightly SHOULDN'T be removed. I strongly disagree with him, but he should be allowed to say it.

[-] AmberPrince@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

I disagree. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence. His consequence is that the other people that live in the society he shares is fed up with him and do not want him to take part in it anymore. He can go somewhere else. We don’t want to hear it.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

"Allowed" by whom?

The right to free speech protects him from the government, not a content policy from a private company.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Free speech is a concept that exists outside the first ammendment or other laws. Pretending it doesn't is intellectually dishonest.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, sure, it's a concept that exists, but so is the concept of, "Talk shit, get hit."

Concepts aren't enforcable. Laws and policies are. Please learn the difference.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Talk shit get hit is a pithy quote compared to millenia of philosophy on the importance of free speech.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, which is why we have laws and content policies in order to enforce when free speech is acceptable or not.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Freedom of speech does not cover threads or encouraging to harm others

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's funny how that rule often gets applied unevenly to one side, though.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? I dont see this being the case

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I used to feel the same in these situations, but then I learned about the paradox of tolerance. Now I am much more of the opinion that James is free to say whatever he wants about any subject, but no one is required to give him a platform to do so.

[-] soupcat@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

I don't understand free speech absolutists. You don't think that maybe calling for all Palestinians to be killed is maybe a bit genocidal and should perhaps be discouraged on a social media platform?

Mind you this isn't a law and wouldn't lead to any actual limiting of liberties, it just means we discourage genocide on social media. Something that seems pretty reasonable to me, and I think any large enough platform should probably feel some obligation to do.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I wonder if they would still feel that way if they knew how radio stations were used to foment the Rwandan genocide?

Who am I kidding? Probably.

[-] Narrrz@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll agree he should be allowed to say it when people who say shit like this get held accountable and suffer consequences.

so, in essence, i disagree.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why do you think this? I want you to spell out your reasoning.

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