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On Friday, the globe hit 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees) above pre-industrial levels for the first time in recorded history

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

this is eugenicist propaganda. also, going vegan has no impact at all.

[-] F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

No it is not. Eugenics is an attempt to improve the genetic quality of a human population.

We are talking about an attempt to stop climate change. We are not trying to “improve” the genetics of human population.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

We are talking about an attempt to stop climate change

those are the trappings, but the method is bare eugenics

[-] F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

No it is not. Eugenics is a pseudo-science about improvement of genetics. Period.

Trying to avoid climate catastrophe is not about improving genetics.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Trying to avoid climate catastrophe is not about improving genetics.

if the method by which you try to avoid it is eugenicist, then it is.

[-] F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I’m done.

I am not into bickering for no reason.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

i didn't ask you to say anything in the first place.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Eugenics is a pseudo-science about improvement of genetics. Period

no, it's not, even the wikipedia article we both love disputes this claim plainly.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

that's a narrow definition that doesn't really encompass all the ways in which eugenics has been practiced. frequently, as i have done here, it is used synonymously with genocide. stop practicing genocide.

[-] F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

No. Genocide is murdering people. Genocide is violence against people. Forcing people, against their will to stop existing.

Asking people to reproduce less is asking people (not forcing them) to exercise their own will.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

genocide is also propaganda that encourages one segment of the population to cease reproduction.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

that is true, but eugenics is something very different

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

in this case, it's a synonymous use. they are totally equivalent in this respect.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Braindead take. We don't need more children to be born into a world of suffering.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Eugenics sounds good at first, but human greed and corruption makes it an incredibly dangerous tool that should probably not be in the hands of anyone

[-] F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t think eugenics sounds good.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

I've heard too many people (mostly elderly) speak out for it. It's definitely a bad idea

[-] PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Then what do you suggest? Thanos?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

i suggest we figure out a way to maintain the habitability of the planet without eugenics.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Right, but from a "carbon footprint" perspective, making new humans is the worst thing a human could do for their footprint. What we need to get away from is the argument that our individual carbon footprints are too high. I mean, they are, but the ruling class is a lot more egregious.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

from a “carbon footprint” perspective, making new humans is the worst thing a human could do for their footprint.

this is actual eugenicist propaganda. you should stop spreading it.

[-] F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
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