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[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 112 points 2 years ago

He's the Chair of the Committee; it is quite literally his job to maintain decorum and everyone else's job to not speak out of turn. Only Mullin was being a child here, no reason to impugn everyone else in the room for doing what they were supposed to be doing and letting the Chair handle it.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And to be clear, mullin is doing this because he got his fee fees hurt by a mean twitter reply.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 2 years ago

Only Mullin was being a child here

Really? The guy who challenged him to a fist fight "anytime, anywhere" and then agreed to it in the chambers wasn't being a child? Only the one who accepted the challenge? How does that work?

[-] Enkrod@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out, but the choice of time and place shows such a serious lack of common sense that it would be alarming for a professional fighter, not to mention an elected representative.

The guy thought that, when challenged anytime anywhere, there and then, in Congress, during a hearing would be a good time and place. smh

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out

Okay well, what you care about has zero bearing on whether or not these actions are childish.

but the choice of time and place

The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator.

Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

One of those people is not a US Senator.

I don't understand why you're telling me this like I don't know.

The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet.

A Tweet where he was challenged to a fist fight.

The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time.

After being challenged "anytime, anywhere".

[-] Faera@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person?

There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate.

There are no times or locations that are appropriate to challenge a grown man to a fist fight, as if that somehow would settle the differences.

[-] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right...

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Which of my comments did you perceive as excusing the senator?

[-] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.

In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree

Yes that is exactly what I've said.

[-] bartlebee@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

I choose trial by combat!

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

One is a senator, one is the president of the teamsters. There's a bit of difference there. That's not to mention one was summoned there and the other one works there. Sure, a physical fight is "silly", but it's only beneath one of their job positions.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's a bit of difference there.

What difference is that, exactly? They're both human adults. For the purposes of this conversation, that's all that matters. No one should be challenging anyone else to fist-fights. They're both children.

it's only beneath one of their job positions.

Totally okay for a union President to challenge a sitting US senator to a fist-fight. Okay. Sure. That makes a ton of sense.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Let’s not both sides this one. One had great power and one goes to jail for not showing up and smiling.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I will "both sides" every issue where there's more than 1 person to blame, which is almost always.

Let's not "my tribe" this one.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

lol you’re really on a war path, what with your “you’re not the boss of me” and all

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

I really don't even know what that's supposed to mean...

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Who are these others whose honor you are so concerned with? Those chairs are mostly empty. The bums didn't even show up.

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