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Bernie once again demonstrating that he's the only adult in a room full of children. It's got to be frustrating as hell to be surrounded by these morons constantly.
He's the Chair of the Committee; it is quite literally his job to maintain decorum and everyone else's job to not speak out of turn. Only Mullin was being a child here, no reason to impugn everyone else in the room for doing what they were supposed to be doing and letting the Chair handle it.
And to be clear, mullin is doing this because he got his fee fees hurt by a mean twitter reply.
Really? The guy who challenged him to a fist fight "anytime, anywhere" and then agreed to it in the chambers wasn't being a child? Only the one who accepted the challenge? How does that work?
He was not challenged to a physical fight. He was the challenger. He challenged the senator to a physical fight. Then while in Congress, his challenge was accepted.
They're both clowns.
No, he fucking tweeted. Mullin is clearly in the wrong and the obvious instigator. It's like you've not even watched the fucking video
I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out, but the choice of time and place shows such a serious lack of common sense that it would be alarming for a professional fighter, not to mention an elected representative.
The guy thought that, when challenged anytime anywhere, there and then, in Congress, during a hearing would be a good time and place. smh
Okay well, what you care about has zero bearing on whether or not these actions are childish.
The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.
One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator.
Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras.
I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person?
There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place.
There are no times or locations that are appropriate to challenge a grown man to a fist fight, as if that somehow would settle the differences.
Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right...
One is a senator, one is the president of the teamsters. There's a bit of difference there. That's not to mention one was summoned there and the other one works there. Sure, a physical fight is "silly", but it's only beneath one of their job positions.
Let’s not both sides this one. One had great power and one goes to jail for not showing up and smiling.
I will "both sides" every issue where there's more than 1 person to blame, which is almost always.
Let's not "my tribe" this one.
lol you’re really on a war path, what with your “you’re not the boss of me” and all
Who are these others whose honor you are so concerned with? Those chairs are mostly empty. The bums didn't even show up.
Once again, people worship the ground Sanders walks on and shit on all the other people in the government working to accomplish things.
The gop are increasingly realizing they can destroy the entire government by doing what they are doing. But there are plenty of Democrats who are still putting in the work and trying to do what they can. And all this "King Bernie" talk does is devalue the work of others. Some of which were actually inspired by Sanders.
Nobody is worshipping Bernie here, nobody said "King Bernie" and this straw man you constructed doesn't exist. He just acted like an adult by calling out immature behavior and was praised for it. That's it. What an odd, overly hostile reaction lol
I mean, to be fair, the original comment DID say he was the ONLY adult in a room full of children...
Yea, but that's a very low bar. If a low bar counts as worship... oooohhhhhh boy
Is this article about another Democrat speaking up and stopping the fight; or Bernie? Don't gotta get your britches in a twist, now it just looks like you have some weird obsession with taking the guy down.
Sanders has stepped up as a "leader" since he pissed away most of his influence in 2012. That is really good. And that is why he is the one expected to "speak up" in these kinds of hearings and why he gets media coverage.
But a LOT of work happens in the government that doesn't get media coverage. One could argue that almost all meaningful and productive work falls into that category.
If people want to say "Good on Bernie for telling it like it is" and "Good thing Bernie is there to step up", I am all for it. But "he's the only adult in a room full of children" is an active insult to everyone who is trying to make this shitshow work.
And even if you don't care about actively disrespecting the people trying to attempt to make this country a more bearable place: Sanders is 78. We need to not pin all our hopes and dreams on someone who very likely won't be in office in 2028.
Oh, people who hate Sanders suddenly don't like it when people are called children?
That's not what he's saying
He sure seems pissed off that someone called them children.
My take of his argument is that all of what we see is theater, and that there are actual adults in the background trying to hold everything together, and that labeling all who work in politics as children does nothing but a disservice to a large majority of civil servants
If people who hate Sanders object so mightily to calling people children, that shouldn't have been their go-to dismissal of everyone to their left for the past 8 years.
Nobody is calling him "king Bernie" either. Pick your battles.
kind of a dumbass, aren'tya? kinda just made a big dumb ol' mountain out of a nothing mole hill, didn'tya?
I think you misunderstood. The "room" mentioned isn't all of Congress, but the physical room where this one committee was.
This has got to be the highest ratio I've ever seen in a single Lemmy comment.
ok
You gotta learn to read before you learn to type, bro
They can't all be Joe Manchin and accomplish everything centrists want.
Hilary rigged the DNC.
Democrats have been ignoring their constituents to pursue their own personal enrichment since.
The people are still waiting for the leader they elected.
Not sure why you got down voted, Hilary absolutely rigged the DNC.
I love how 279 people took time out their day just to point how ridiculous this comment is
301 with my downvote.
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