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genocide joe must go. primary his ass
I don't have a problem with a primary challenger but there is nobody even considering it let alone viable.
Found the Republican.
Also Democrats in 2024, "It's the progressives fault that Biden lost!" Really, you want to get people excited about elections? Then find better candidates.
Meh Hillary has baggage, I'll let the quasi authoritarian nutjob win instead. Democrats 2016.
Meh, Biden is not exciting, I'll let the proven kleptocrats promising they'll destroy any checks in government win instead - they should have served me a better candidate.
Hopefully not 2024.
If it comes down to Biden and Trump, you better believe I'm voting for Biden. However, we've been here before and the DNC has had 8 years now to fix their shit, but they act as clueless as ever. You don't like the risk of having an authoritarian Repub in office? Then the DNC needs to fix their shit period. You want to win the house and senate? Then find a Presidential candidate that people actually like.
I just hope they still show up for all the down ticket races. So much more is elected than President and the way Republicans captured our government was by acting at the school board and town level as well as securing legislatures and governorships so they could pack the courts.
The birchers had a cohesive strategy for a multi-frontal assault on democracy, and they didn't do it by getting the most votes for president.
I dunno, he doesn't seem half bad - particularly when you look at the mooks currently in the lineup.
Found the Nazi apologist.
If you care to check my comment history you'll see I'm anything but. I just understand the realities of a two party system.
the primary hasn't happened yet, we can run another democrat in 2024, it's not too late
3 states' filing deadlines to appear on the ballot have already passed and several will pass next month. And then there are the signatory and other requirements to file which take time and money. The ship has sailed on new candidates entering the race
big mistake on the democratic party. if he loses he can't blame young people again
Hopefully mother nature runs her course for both of these old fucks.
no I'm not. I'm an anarchist. no one is obligated to support shitty candidates and it's not ok for you to go around calling people republicans for not doing so
It's not ok for you to sit back and watch while the fascists take over, but here we are.
biden supporters, like clinton supporters before them, are the ones risking the country on bad candidates they often don't like themselves
So what's your plan? Sit around and gloat about how enlightened you are while the world burns? Your kind does nothing useful.
My "kind"?
Yes. Do you need something explained to you?
what's my "kind" exactly? be specific?
People who match your description of yourself in this thread. That's as specific as I can be, because what's in the thread is all I know about you.
Found the Americans. Good job, you've made it about your country again. You may leave now.
Edit: The Americans don't like being told to not make everything about themselves. This platform is america-centric, just like Reddit.
wow, your comment history reads like... well, reddit.
Unnecessarily antagonistic and really has nothing intelligent or worthwhile to add?
Ok
They are just so left, morally and strategically superior that they'll hand the election to Republicans to spite the Democrats! That'll teach em!
And you railing against trying literally anything else besides the status quo, ensure that we'll continue on with our two party system ensuring Republicans will continue to make up ~50% of the legislature. Good job, bud!
Go ahead! I'm not the one that has to worry when Republicans take office.
and you sure speak like it, seeing how you're not worried genocide joe's gonna blow it next year.
I shouldn't really be that hard on you. You're young and idealistic and want to just jump the shark with the presidential election instead of doing the necessary work under it. I hope you figure it out someday though.
dude biden could fucking lose to trump. we were asked to "hold my noses" in 2016 and look how that one turned out. 2020 was a near miss, 2024 isn't looking so hot and literally any other candidate would get more votes than Biden. why do you love biden so much you're willing to risk trump in 2024 when literally some random governor (not from cali) would be a safer bet to win?
When you a little older I'm sure you'll figure out this while election strategy thing. Maybe you'll even look at some past elections too get a feeling of how this all works.
you mean I'll figure out running shitty cannidate4s your base doesn't like is a bad strategy? I already know that
Well it hasn't exactly sunk into your strategy yet, give it another 20 years and a few more Republican presidents and you'll figure it out. I'll give you a hint: don't start with presidential elections. It's the side effect, not the problem.
Biden loses to trump by 4 points but a generic dem wins by 8. he's the wrong man for the job of beating trump
Good, with how stupid we are collectively, we deserve a Republican president.
Lol and you're over here condescending the other guy for being young. You sound like an immature prick
No, I'm just tired of smoothbrains fucking it up for others.
It's not a zero sum game. You don't have to be a republican to dislike Joe Biden.
You don't have to like him think shit like calling him "genocide Joe" is counterproductive.
He is actively and openly supporting and funding a genocide but we're not allowed to call him mean names?
I don't accept your characterization. And despite what the last person said, it is a zero sum game. Do I need to draw you a diagram of how Trump would be worse in just about every possible way, including for Palestinians?
Obviously Biden is better than Trump. The Democrats and Republicans are both bad. Yes, the Democrats are less bad, but things aren't going to get better if we just refuse to criticize them because of this.
As long as we're stuck picking between Democrats and Republicans I'm going to continue to vote Democrat and encourage others to do so, but I'm not going to hide my reservations nor accept mockery for refusing to toe the party line.