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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fucking communist countries have killed how many millions of their own citizens?

Bruh, centuries of capitalist exploitation of its citizens and treating them like a disposable commodity would like to have a word on the whole 'citizens killed by their own country' topic.

How many thousands or millions of citizens die yearly because they can't afford to live in this fucked up system?

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

So whataboutism really is the only argument for communism lmao

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

"I'm presented with a single argument that refutes this claim, better setup a strawman that this is the only argument available"

Lmao, at least try to sound intelligent

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago
[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

Asks for link that doesn’t say “hurr durr capitalism bad

Gets a link from Marxists.org

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

I made this comment without looking at the website but WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WEBSITE?????

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's communist innovation (not innovative)(no incentive to update that UI from the 90s)(communists find lack of progress calming)

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago
[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

It actually is a decent resource as long as it is not your only context for history and political science.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Lmfao not at all, the dude literally said whataboutisms are the only arguments for Communism, so i linked him a copy of Das Kapital. Unfortunately you clearly lack the reading comprehension to consume it.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The state of commies, laughable

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

None? People don't starve to death in western countries. And where they do the issue is lack of infrastructure. A communist government couldn't conjure the resources needed to build that out of thin air either.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

None? People don’t starve to death in western countries. And where they do the issue is lack of infrastructure.

"This thing doesn't happen, and when it does, it's not the fault of capitalism itself" is a monumentally stupid argument. Especially when talking about the homeless population, which absolutely does have people that starve.

A communist government couldn’t conjure the resources needed to build that out of thin air either.

And the capitalist economy chose not to build it because it wasn't profitable, or after it was built, it was too expensive to be used.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I said it doesn't happen in the west, not that it doesn't happen anywhere. Please learn to read.

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago

Bullshit it doesn't happen in the west. 12.8% of US households were considered food insecure in 2022, with 5.1% of that being considered to have VERY low food security(Source). Over 20,000 Americans died of malnutrition in 2022, more than double the number in 2018(Source).

There's also nearly 30 vacant homes for every 1 homeless person in the US, so there's plenty of room, too. Nobody needs a 2nd home when over half a million people don't even have one.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Maybe you should have actually read that article before linking it. It discusses in detail the reasons for malnutrition being an issue, and none of those reasons is being unable to afford food. The problems are typically due to age and diseases.

[-] Smk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Where is your great communist country ?? Oh wait, it's not there. It doesn't exist and it never will. Capitalism works. Not perfect but it works. Your idealized version of communism is great but so is my idealized version of capitalism where everyone has a shot at the American dream!

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