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[-] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a lil extreme my guy

Edit: what fuckin world do we live in, where someone says that a politician needs to be shot to death, and the controversial opinion is to not shoot someone? Am I crazy for thinking that killing trump wouldn't solve anything? We shouldn't give people a martyr. The best way to get rid of someone is by shaming them and forgetting them.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Furthermore, 18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What a crazy variation in punishment for treason.

[-] lateraltwo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

When he says that on a fringe social media platform it's "lil extreme"

When Trump says that 5 thugs need to be put to death, who were found Innocent, it's just an opinion everyone is allowed to.

[-] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

Uh no, that's also an extreme opinion. Death is always an extreme opinion, because there's no way to change your mind. Death is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If you're gonna be a naïve idealist, at least be an effective one and pick arguments where you're not splitting hairs over hyperbole on niche social media, much less hyperbole directed at a world-class factory of inflammatory hyperbole who has 0 chance of being executed by the government.

[-] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

I will not entertain the concept of normalizing extremist hyperbole, as normalizing extremes tends to make them normal.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Someone go to this guy's house and do a medieval torture of some sort.

[-] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Nah I think we should do that to you, considering you're ok with stuff like that

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🤣 Hey, remember how Trump separated immigrant children from their mothers, some of whom we lost record of and have no idea if they've been reunited? Remember the physical abuse of immigrants he internally promoted? Remember his pandering to the Klan and neo-nazis and adjacent white nationalist organizations? Remember all the covid deaths he caused with his validating and spreading of lies? His insurrection attempt? Divulging of military strategic information? Don't you think that tips the scales a little bit? All it took was a little bit of pushback to get you to flip on your "never joke about violence" stance. I've never done any of those things. You should re-evaluate your priorities. Unless this is really the hill you want to "die" (😱) on.

[-] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

A lil pushback? Flip? No, I've always been anti-violence. Killing people only results in more graves. War doesn't solve anything. Sometimes you need to stand up in defense, and that's different, but starting the violence is never a good thing

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Getting on a high horse over hyperbole is silly, but that's what you doubled down on doing, then you used the exact same kind of hyperbole yourself because you were mad. That's the definition of flipping. (And irony.)

You can stop grandstanding now, no-one cared before, except for the bit where you stuck your foot in your mouth, maybe.

[-] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And what do you do when that comes? If most people consider extreme to be normal, what do the rest of us do?

[-] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

There is a difference between starting conflict, and defending yourself. Assassination is not a defense

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

To respond to your edit:

Death as a punishment for treason would do a lot to stem the tide of treasonous fucks that are currently holding high positions in our political system.

The time for leniency is OVER. And making a martyr out of a huge sack of shit is just fine- let more of those fucks step out of line and see what happens.

[-] Pottsunami@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Do you really think that's how it'd go down? You might want to rethink that one.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve rethought it- and yea, that’s how it would go down.

[-] Pottsunami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, so you're not just in a bad mood or something, you're just stupid.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not so stupid that I’d think that doing next to nothing is the proper way to deal with traitors to our country.

It’s even in built into our laws that death be a possible punishment.

But noooooo, better he remain in jail where he can continue to rile up his army of dipshits and continue destroying this country.

And yes, jailing him still entitles him to martyrdom. At least if the fat fuck were bleeding out in the dirt- he’d shut the fuck up for a change.

[-] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If such was legal and in accordance with the Constitution of the United States of America, the military would stand ready to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and obey the orders of those appointed them. Our officers stand ready and willing to defend the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Domestic terrorists are terrorists, and there's nothing we like better than to hunt terrorists and put warheads on foreheads.

[-] Pottsunami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, good luck getting a court to convict that. There are multiple lawsuits. None of them are considering anything with the death penalty, nor should it. There is no legal precedence for it.

Convicting Trump of the death penalty is more likely to result in a 2nd civil war than it is to make people fall in line. We tried bombing the taliban into falling in line for 20 years. How'd that go?

[-] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We'll March to the Sea again - and back, and forth, and back, and forth, as long as it takes. We did it once, we can do it again.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

I think it is more towards the fear of him becoming re-elected and death -- while indeed extreme -- would prevent such an outcome.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Not really. It's in line with all US laws to ask for the death penalty

18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

Considering the scope and impact of his crimes. It would be reasonable to ask for the maximum punishment.

[-] nikscha@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

I'm 100% with you

[-] teuast@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I agree, we should throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Boy let me tell you something about our founding fathers.... This man tried to destroy our democracy, he deserves to die. However, for the sake of our civilized society I would prefer to see him rot in jail until he dies in the most unglamorous way possible that way he can't be made a martyr.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Blanket Party, and everyone in the nation gets 15 seconds each.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He may be a politician but he's also a criminal and I think that would be the punishment for his crimes not for being a politician. Although hes a pretty awful politician too lol that's not a crime.

[-] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's as though people want a civil war.

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