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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not saying people can opt out of politics.

I'm saying politics is in the actions, not in the objects.

A penis or a vagina are not political. But the decisions/assumptions people might make about them, are.

There's no such thing as "political times". Conflict has always existed. Trans people existed before too. It wasn't any less political then than now. Even if some things might have changed, it's not that before things were not politically motivated, either in one direction or another.

Maybe some topics oscillate in popularity with the mainstream tides. Maybe opinions evolve (sometimes to polar extremes). But that doesn't make things today any less (or more) political than they were before.

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Is the amount of politics something has supposed to be measurable somehow? If something is relevant to politics or has a political aspect it's not inaccurate to describe it as political.

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do you measure it?

Popularity contest? over which population? What's popular in America is not the same as what's popular in the Middle East.. what's popular among trans circles might not match what's popular amonst traditional familymen. If we do an actual statistics count we might be surprised about what topics are actually of interest to the common folk.

I don't think measuring how "political" something is makes much sense... whenever I see someone applying a measure like that what they are measuring is not the amount of real impact on the human race a particular societal philosophy will have, but rather how it will affect a particular group in a very particular case, or sometimes how "trendy" it is. But most philosophies, when analized deeply in they purest form, are usually atemporal, and their importance is absolute.. not something that changes with time or with the trends.

Of course you can have your own way of seeing things. I expect most people do. I probably am a minority in how I don't see any sense to use "political" like that... since aparently a lot of people use it.

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it makes sense to determine what is or isn't political by measuring the amount of politicality either. What makes something political is that some people say it's political. And since I'm a person and I say that everything on Earth is political, that makes it so. QED.

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hahaha. I mean, sure. You are entitled to have your own definition, just the same way I'm entitled to having mine.

In mine, "someone saying it's political" is not what makes something political. I think I already talked about that. Let's agree to disagree :P

We do agree that measuring the amount of "politicallity" makes no sense. So at least there's that.

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