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[-] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 year ago

Freedom of speech or freedom of expression isn't freedom from consequences. Words matter, and they have consequences, and people should consider the consequences of their speech in public.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Fuck off with this "we have no free speech" bullshit, substack (and it's freedom of conscience in Canada in the first place, not free speech). All of the things listed are social consequences, not criminal prosecution or some other government persecution. Sarah was booted by her party, not the government, and the rest are employers and universities. If there is fault, it lies with those organizations.

It's also not protected speech, so if there is fault, those organizations will have to suffer social consequences themselves, as it doesn't seem that they broke any laws.

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

The censured her:

The Doug Ford government has put forward a motion that would censure an Ontario NDP MPP over her comments on the Israel-Gaza war and ask they not be recognized in the legislature until a formal apology is made and a statement on social media is deleted.

The motion calls comments made by Hamilton Centre MPP Sarah Jama last week “antisemitic” and “discriminatory.” If passed, it would call on the Speaker not to recognize Jama in the House “until the Member retracts and deletes her statement on social media and makes an apology in her place in the House.”

So they're trying to completely take away her ability to govern because of her speech. So yes, the government is trying to silence her.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

And like several things Douggie has put through, it will ultimately be deemed illegal. That bill is a clear violation of charter rights.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not familiar with how censure works in the Ontario Provincial Parliament legal framework. Do you have any examples of precedent where a censure motion has been struck down in court? Because my understanding is that the majority was within their legal powers to do this.

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