You have a valid point and these people just seem to miss it because they're too mired in partisanism to see it.

Except they don't, because McCarthy didn't work with the dems. He quite literally went back on his word and backstabbed them days before he was ousted. Just because he was occasionally ever so slightly less of an obstructionist shitbag does not mean he was good.

Are you seriously asking why the democrats didn't, once again, act like the only adults in the room to clean up the mess the republicans made on purpose?

It's not a valid point because McCarthy didn't work with Democrats on virtually any issue. He repeatedly told Dems to go fuck themselves. Dude was a moron who had no clue how to play politics and somehow thought he could get away with pissing everyone on both sides off. Complete coward.

It's incredible to me that people like you think your opinions are valid when you clearly don't know shit about the issue at hand. It's telling that you pin all the blame on democrats when moderate Republicans could have just as easily cured for a Dem speaker.

I'm tired of the echo chamber the internet people throw to us. They can't even see a point if it has an ounce of anti-norm.

Yeah, but if Ukraine end up unfunded that'd be too big a price.
And I'm not even sure if Dems' naivety this time is working well for Dems.

The partisanship in here, among what I assume are mostly adults, is monstrously depressing.