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[-] Awoo@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I didn’t say or suggest a single thing you just said.

Of course you did. You said that the defederating thing turns you off the concept of Lemmy, and you advocated for it to be not-a-feature.

You are advocating for centralised mega platforms owned by mega dictators.

The are two options. Centralisation, or decentralisation. That's it. There is no magic alternative. This is the material reality that exists.

If it turns you off Lemmy, then what you are advocating for is centralisation. The literal polar opposite of what the entire fediverse aims to be and exists to solve. There is not an alternative and there will not be. You either get one owner of a super site or thousands of owners of minisites that federate in order to be emulate a supersite without the oversight. That's it. There is no third-way.

[-] zinklog@lemmy.fmhy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Criticizing and mentioning flaws of a system doesn't automatically make a person against the system.

Accepting the current flaws and then working on their solutions is the way to make Lemmy better for everyone.

[-] Awoo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The system IS federation.

It's not criticising flaws in a system, it's literally asking to dismantle it entirely. You can't have the fediverse or decentralisation without federation. That's the issue.

You either have centralisation. Or you have decentralised federation as a means of providing the size that centralised social media can reach without the centralisation part.

The crying about it being a flaw is just people whining about wanting what they're used to with absolutely no differences. They need to be told to simply get used to it with none of this babying. Their crappy suggestions and complaints are antithetical to the entire goal of fediverse.

All of them will go back to reddit and then find themselves back here in a few years when it's the content slop machine that they want it to be. They don't actually care about the goal, they just want slop and are unhappy that their are complications about getting their slop.

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