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Craig Mokhiber, director of human rights body, accuses the US, UK and much of Europe as ‘wholly complicit in the horrific assault’

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[-] cia@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Why is everyone so black and white on this issue? Israel has a right to exist. Palestine has a right to exist. It shouldn’t be hard to understand.

[-] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago

You can't 'both sides' an issue where one side is commiting genocide and settler colonialism and the other doesn't have access to clean water and electricity. That shouldn't really be that hard to understand either

[-] cia@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Its is a ‘both sides’ issue when the Palestinian side has rejected every peace deal, commits terrorist attacks, and calls for the genocide of Jews. Nobody looks good in this conflict.

[-] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Palestinian side? What the fuck are you talking about. Stop conflating hamas with all of palestine. It's like conflating israel with all jews. You're just being racist. Hamas has also repetedly requested a cease fire that israel always refuses so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Stop trying to act like an enlightened centrist in a conflict you clearly know nothing about.

[-] cia@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas is the ruling, elected authority of Gaza. And even before them, other Palestinian officials have rejected multiple peace deals. That doesn’t mean all Palestinians are culpable, the same way not all Israelis are responsible for Netanyahu’s actions.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes just keep lying about how Israel totally didn't sabotage those peace deals deliberately.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The more I read up on the history, the more I understand Israel's "right to exist" took a huge bite out of Palestine's "right to exist". The Nakba in 1948 most prominently, and annexations in Gaza, Sinai, West Bank and Golan Heights ever since (some temporary - Sinai and former settlements in Gaza - and the rest very much permanent).

It's one thing to say an annexation of land is ancient history, but there are people alive who were displaced by Israel 75 years ago and are still living in refugee camps. We have two very incompatible things going on right now - Israel is basically screaming for blood because of Oct 7, and they are also living on recently stolen land that calls for reparations to be made to the Palestinian people - if you brought up the latter in this environment, you'd probably be accused of "supporting Hamas", but it's something that's been true for decades. Really exhausting dynamic.

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