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Lewiston, Maine shootings leave at least 16 dead
(www.cnn.com)
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They really don't...95% of all gun homicide are done with handguns. No one bats an eye at those because 85% of them are done in drug or gang violence...only time anyone starts talking gun control is when something like this happens.
If an AR style didn't provide an advantage then the military wouldn't select designs like it.
Militaries need to consider more than combat effectiveness for servive weapons: namely low cost and availability, which AR patterns have in spades.
Good suggestion! We should ban all semi-automatic guns, long and short.
You forgot "domestic abuse", but I guess that was a bit too white sounding for your list.
Also, you're going to link us to the source of these figures right?
So every couple of months then. What an odd coincidence that it lines up with the pro-guns concern about mental healthcare?
You plan on taking them? Tell me exactly what makes you think those who have them illegally will turn them in and what makes you think LEOs will be willing to go door to door taking guns?
Domestic abuse is also in that list but it's not as high as gang and drug violence...also go fuck yourself you race baiting shit. Armed minorities are harder to oppress and I'm not the white picket fence urbanized white kid who wants to disarm minorities.
Yes it would be good to get single payer healthcare and it would be good to rebuild our mental healthcare in the USA. It would be good to end the drug war, and end for profit prisons. It would be good to pay teachers more and to focus more money on our inner city schools instead of white suburban schools.
Got any other silly comments?
PS, you're not arguing with a white christian republican....
I'm fine with "responsible gun owners" becoming "illegal gun owners". If they're caught with illegal firearms, they get charged with possession just like anybody else.
They will have had their chance to comply with democratically decided gun laws and if they can't prove they are able to securely store and responsibly handle, fuck em.
I'm also fine with firing police who selectively uphold the law based on their own shitty personal views, just as I'm fine with taking away the excuses they use to execute people on the spot.
In 2007, 14% of homicides were domestic violence related.
In 2020, 9.7% of homicides were gang related.
So what a surprise, you're just pushing right-wing "it's those urban kids and their gangs" pro-gun talking points for Fox News hairpieces.
Are they? Because they're looking pretty fucking oppressed to me.
Police in America routinely execute black people on the street and in their homes. If those victims were in 50ft of a gun, they don't do even a token investigation.
Black men are incarcerated at a much higher rate and in a country where incarceration is already far beyond countries of comparable wealth. Once there, they're used as slave labor for multi-million dollar companies.
And of course, every few months a far-right extremist takes their legal gun and goes hunting minorities, targeting places like majority black churches or gay clubs, killing as many of them as they possibly can before the police arrive with their hamburger.
By all means, share with us exactly when we're supposed to start firing on police and how you expect that to lead to systemic reform and not just minorities being killed with a renewed vigor.
You can't though can you? Because "armed minorities are harder to oppress" isn't actually wisdom. It's not based on anything at all.
It's a marketing slogan invented by the gun lobby and taught to suckers with no purpose other than increasing gun sales beyond the usual "middle aged white conservative" demographic, in order to funnel more blood money into their offshore accounts.
Is this actually related to anything in this conversation or are you just trying reassure everybody you're definitely a progressive because leftists like cool guns too, get your cool gun now, AR-15s on sale now just $499, armed minorities are harder to oppress, better to have one and not need it, better still to have two or three and not need them, save $200 when you purchase two or more guns.
Got any more marketing slogans you want to get off your chest? Maybe you could lie about some more statistics?
Sure I am. Whatever color your skin may be, inside that skull are the exact thoughts of a white christian republican -- and that's not something you can lie about.
You can google it, you know. source 1
Let's see...in 2021, depending on who you ask, between 103 people (FBI) and 700 people (Gun Violence Archive) died in mass shootings. This is as compared to 48,830 deaths from firearms total. So ~1.5%.
As for handguns: "In 2020, the most recent year for which the FBI has published data, handguns were involved in 59% of the 13,620 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available. Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 3% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%."
So above poster was a bit low for purely murders. However, mix in the fact that about 54% of gun deaths are suicides (overwhelming handguns), and the total percentage of gun deaths attributable to handguns is about 80%.
I've already agreed to ban handguns too so don't feel obligated to post statistics that were next to the statistics I actually challenged.
What percentage of mass casualty incidents are carried out with a handgun?
The majority of them. As the majority that are classified as mass casualties are from gang and drug violence