Tell me again how gun control laws would have stopped this?

How about I detail all the ways he could have gotten a gun under your laws that you enable that are in effect right now?

• He bought the guns before he had mental health issues and red flag laws weren't used because police are far-right and pro-gun and put cultish, bullshit ideology before people's lives.

• He just lied or had someone else lie and the gun laws you're rushing to the defense of completely failed to catch it because they're hopelessly inadequate and designed to put lobby profits before people's lives.

At this point, we've covered 80% of mass shooters so we're looking good statistically.

• He took the legally purchased, poorly secured firearm of a "responsible gun owner" of a family member or friend because the pro-gun community staunchly insists that the "responsible" part of "responsible gun owner" is 100% optional and punishable only by the tutting of strangers on the internet.

Now we've covered over 90% of mass shooters, but most of these ones are children.

• He bought the gun in a private sale that didn't require a background check because for some surreal reason, the pro-gun crowd is completely okay with that and fights the closing of the loophole.

• He bought a previously legally purchased, poorly secured, promptly stolen gun from a stranger, because illegal firearms don't grow on trees, they're endlessly (and profitably!) by millions of people like yourself.

Which covers 99% of mass shooters. Of course deep down, you already knew all of that didn't you?

You're just not allowed to admit it out loud, because the moment you admit that in fact yes, gun control could have stopped many of these clearly telegraphed attacks, you'd have to also admit that you pushed for the laws that killed those people.

So how about instead of me explaining "how gun control laws would have stopped this" over and over again, you go fuck yourself?

You've overthrown zero tyrants. You've done nothing to lower the crime rate. You've let "suicide with dad's protect-my-family gun" become the number one cause of death for teenagers. You've insisted for 25 years that you have the answers and you've failed every single time.

" 'No way to prevent this' , says the only developed country where mass shootings happen regularly."

A pretty simple how for that case would be to have a protected database where mental health professionals and institutions would report individuals with issues deemed worryng enough to bar from purchasing a gun. Then during the background check they would reference that db. If the person being checked is verified to be in that db fail the check. Maybe have some revaluation options or whatever but it's not hard to imagine how reasonable laws that are actually enforced could actually help. The half baked laws that are half assed enforced and then held up as an example of any laws at all being fundamentally impossible just isn't convincing.

Do we know if he bought the gun before or after the mental health problems were diagnosed?

We don’t have many laws that will take the guns away after diagnosis, and worse, we seem to have a police force that’s not willing to enforce those laws when they do exist.

If only there were 194 other countries out there that don't have this problem. Then we could have somewhere to look and see if maybe having a gun store on every corner is contributing to this problem.

If you're talking about ATF form 4473, it asks "have you ever been adjudicated as a mental detective, OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution", not whether you have any mental health issues.

That form is also not a background check, that's the NICS check, which is separate.

And that's only at time of purchase, so I assume he bought the gun prior to being committed.