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Hello World!

We've made some changes today, and we'd like to announce that our Code of Conduct is no longer in effect. We now have a new Terms of Service, in effect starting from today(October 19, 2023).

The "LAST REVISION DATE:" on the page also signifies when the page was last edited, and it is updated automatically. Details of specific edits may be viewed by following the "Page History" reference at the bottom of the page. All significant edits will also be announced to our users.

The new Terms of Service can be found at https://legal.lemmy.world/


In this post our community mods and users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World. We hope to discuss and inform constructively and in good faith.

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[-] Spyd3r@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago

5.0.6: No visual content depicting executions, murder, suicide, dismemberment, visible innards, excessive gore, or charred bodies. No content depicting, promoting or enabling animal abuse.

This rule needs an exception for war reporting, and posting evidence of criminal activity or police misconduct.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Not just war reporting. There are legitmate medical discussions that can be aided by such depictions. There should be an exception made for legitimate educational images. Otherwise technically a biological textbook on dissection runs afoul of this rule.

[-] Astrealix@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Not really tbh. We don't need to personally see that stuff — it can cause lasting trauma. Knowing it exists and who did it is enough for war reporting.

[-] Spyd3r@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Citizens of free and democratic societies have a fundamental need to be informed of what is going on in the world and their communities, free of bias or censorship, so they can make informed, reality based decisions and instruct their representatives in government on how to carry out the will of the people. When you start filtering and curating peoples' perception of reality to fit an agenda or narrative you're talking away their agency (you tankies wouldn't understand what that word means), and interfering with their duties as a citizen.

[-] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to agree with Astrealix on this. Information should be free. But information and snuff videos are two different things. I want information. I don't need or want to be constantly exposed to gore content. And I don't consider myself badly informed because I didn't see one guy chopping another guy's head in 4K-HD.

[-] Astrealix@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

First of all, I am from Hong Kong and utterly hate the CCP and tankies. It's frankly insulting that you would compare me to them when they consistently fight for the complete eradication of the Hong Kong identity.

But more importantly, there's a line to be drawn there. I agree that it is important to be informed — but you don't need Israel tweeting photos of dead babies onto everyone's Twitter feeds and traumatising people to be informed that babies died. You don't need to personally witness every single gory detail of humanity's terrible sins in order to know that things have happened. That's what people do as a job in journalism, and they have lots of protection to make sure they're not traumatised by it. The average Lemming doesn't need to see that.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is a private instance, not a government. This is so dramatic lol. You clearly disagree with the tankies and you aren't on their instance, right? So if you disagree with lemmy.world policies, you can just do the same.

[-] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

We don’t need to personally see that stuff

I find it difficult to understand that something should be banned because some people "don't need" to see it. Then don't look at it? And I'm talking specifically for war reporting now. I'm not talking for generic gore. It is war reporting. It is something that happens. By hiding it it only helps to enlarge our safe bubble and live in it. Sorry, this is not the world. If you want to live in your safe bubble it is up to you, but making it sound like the "correct way to handle reality" is wrong imo

[-] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I agree that it’s fine to make a rule against it on a privately funded instance but definitely do not agree with your line of thinking. Sometimes you can’t understand the gravity of horror without seeing it, and sometimes you must understand it to be motivated to do something about it. A little trauma of is sometimes necessary to be an informed citizen of the world.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Get traumatized by gore for "thoughts and prayers" on ~~Facebook~~ Lemmy

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Good thing these people weren't on the internet in the early 2000's with sites like rotten.com or toxic.com. much simpler days

[-] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Idk, I preferred meatspin and lemonparty.

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago
[-] mojo@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

They aren't Reddit, they're an instance. There's no reason they need to allow that. That content can be for other instances.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

That is bad logic and no justification.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They're an instance, they can put a rule requiring every comment to include the text "I'm a little teapot".

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That doesn't imply it would be a good rule which is what we are disagreeing about. Pointing out they CAN have a rule is irrelevant.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what we are disagreeing about

In a federated system, the relevant part is each instance CAN have different rules. If you don't like one set, or consider it "not good", then go to an instance with a different set, or start your own.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"start your own"

"start you own!"

"Start you own start your own"

There should be a rule that allows for violence against people who say that

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There should be a rule that allows for violence against people who say that

Are you suggesting to... "start your own", violence? 😛

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

And people can criticize that choice.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sure, they can. And people can point out it's the instance owner's choice.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Libertarianism is a garbage ideology.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That's what lemmy.ml is for. This instance is too big for its own good.

this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
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