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YouTube intensifies fight against ad blockers showing pop-ups, and users are frustrated | Blocking ad-block users::undefined

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[-] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For as many hours of YouTube I watch 4+ daily at least. I don't mind paying for Premium to avoid the hassle. Plus I get music with it.

Edit: haters can ligma. Down vote all you want!

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 91 points 1 year ago

YouTube isn't gonna give you brownie points for shilling for them

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is very possibly a Google employee, every big company in the world now has rooms full of people constantly astroturfing this shit and it works very well. It works so well that this comment will be downvoted to oblivion. It's also virtually guaranteed that it will be responded to with a condescending, paternalistic post about how "lol bruh everybody who thinks different than you do must be a shill" or something similar - also not unlikely to be paid for.

Edit: Predictable, but not entirely unexpected. For anyone reading this, use LibRedirect browser extension to point all your YouTube links to a different front end.

[-] PurplePropagule@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh no! Someone is going against the anti YouTube circlejerk by saying that it's personally worth it for them to pay for the service. Obviously a paid actor. No one who isn't paid by google would ever dare to express that kind of sentiment on a relevant discussion thread, of course. Lmao.

Edit: Lol I love how you added your prediction that you'd be downvoted after being downvoted, and after I left my comment. For those who didn't see, he edited the comment to add everything after the first sentence after being met with resistance making it seem like he predicted the downvotes and my response. I wish I was being paid to clown on this moron haha. What a sad pathetic fucking loser lol.

[-] YoungLiars@aussie.zone 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a controversial viewpoint on here. You have to be pirating everything and using Linux otherwise you are corporate shill and will be downvoted for having a different viewpoint. Talk about an echo chamber.

I have used YouTube premium for years and years now, it is the best value subscription service I use. I haven’t seen an ad in years, I don’t have to find loopholes and I get to support the creators that produce great content. Also music.

[-] em2@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

I used to have premium for $9.99/mo until I got an email about them raising their rates come December. No thank you.

[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Use a VPN and set your location to turkey. It’s ~$15-20 for the year. You never have to use the VPN again once you’ve purchased the subscription

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Just tried and it said I needed a payment method from the country.

[-] travysh@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Just move to Turkey. Start a new job. Find the love of your life. Get married. Have kids. Grow old together, and support your children as they age in to adulthood. Spend your golden years relaxing. Maybe visit some beaches.

Oh yeah, and I guess use your Turkish payment method at some point in there too. I'm guessing at some point in there you got like a credit card or something

[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Huh, it worked fine for me, but this was maybe ~3 months ago.

[-] em2@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You could probably use Wise, but why bother.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

India is even cheaper. I pay 1$ a month.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I don't, but I'm fine with paying for premium. I hate that a lot of content has sponsored content that your premium subscription doesn't remove. Even if I paid for premium I'd still need to have SponsorBlock to make it watchable.

[-] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I pay for premium but I ended up installing revanced on my phone so I could disable shorts and it also skips in-video ads which is really nice. I didn't disable YouTube's ad blocking though because I don't need to.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago

Shit, dude, I was in your corner until the edit. It's supposed to be about choice. Those that wanna pay, pay. Those that can put up with ads, put up with them. Those that wanna say fuck YouTube, well, arr matey.

So, you rock on with your choice. You didn't, as far as I can see, bitch at anyone else's choice, so keep on rocking.

But ffs, never, ever whine about votes. Doesn't matter if they're up or down, they're just part of the forum. You say your peace, you get the votes you get (and if you check my user history, you'll see plenty of shit I've said where I did exactly that, so this isn't from someone that's all pristine or shit), and that's the way it is.

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I mean the free choice argument falls apart a bit when you consider that YouTube is essentially a monopoly.

[-] korewa@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same here. It’s nice to have high quality niche content from individual content creators and with premium I believe they get better revenue than ad supported users.

Although YouTube music kind of sucks I’m using Apple Music for that so I kind of have redundant service

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 23 points 1 year ago

I think the best way to support them is through donations.

Most have links to them.

Ads are out of hand, that is why many left cable and subscription based platforms are the next thing.

Piracy is growing and that is good, it forces these greedy companies to inovate or to do better.

[-] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

can't donate to all of the different creators I watch

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If you use premium they get a bigger cut based on your viewing. It lets you support them more.

[-] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly, that's what I do. I think that's really the best option. Support the creators and support the platform while avoiding ads. Video hosting is absurdly expensive

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 points 1 year ago

You are right, most could not.

I wuld say that any way to support them works, not just with money...

[-] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

what other ways would help them?

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago

Word of mouth, when possible.

It depends on the goal of the people, I follow some that mention what helps them.

[-] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

it seems to me like what is probably more helpful is getting paid. With my YT premium sub all of the creators get paid some amount for my watch time (better than ad payment) and I don't see ads. It simply seems like the best solution

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks fpr explaining how it works!

I did not know that much about it.

[-] Tumnus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That's a big "hell no"from me

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 year ago

It is worth it for some.

[-] Companion1666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Tumnus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
[-] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

From the article

even if some users stop using YouTube, there won't be a loss of revenue because those users weren't watching ads anyway.

Guys, YouTube doesn't give a flying fuck that you aren't going to consume their content without paying. That's the point. They're only rolling this out slowly to be sure they aren't impacting their actual customers.

Lemmy felt like classic reddit for about a week, actual content that I wanted to see, discussions at an adult level. The amount of bandwagoning and "me too", "fuck corporations" comments has me signing on less and less.

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

I wish people didn't care about downvotes. Always hated the edits on reddit reacting to being downvoted. Would downvote comments I agreed with too if they whined about votes.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Downvoting this guy complaining about complaining about downvoting.

[-] AngryMob@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Its not relevant to this particular commenter, but ive made downvote edits when i get to -5 or -10 but have no replies. Especially when i felt like i had a reasonable take. My edit is usually asking for responses from those who disagree, rather than just a "edit: fuck you haters".

[-] glarf@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yep, same here. Premium is worth it for me too. I don't understand the entitlement on lemmy with YouTube, it's worse than reddit.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm with you, but I've found that any post here on Lemmy about YouTube, Spotify, or any other streaming service ends up the same: artists have enough money already, artists are paid better through merchandise and performances (no citation provided and the author acknowledges they don't actually do this), these services don't pay enough anyway, non-paying users are entitled to a better experience; all this is to excuse themselves of stealing content from creators they love by bootlegging it illegally.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I'm currently paying for streaming services that I get less value from than what I get from YouTube.

[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

For as many hours of YouTube that I watch, maybe 1 hour daily, I don’t mind setting my VPN to turkey and paying $15 for the year. I mostly use it for music anyway… I certainly wouldn’t pay the full price for it though.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

To your point, I watch YouTube more than Netflix or Disney plus. The only reason I’m not paying for YouTube is because I have it for free now.

The ads are so annoying that I might subscribe for an add free experience if I didn’t have other means to block it.

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

This guy gets it

[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Go back to Reddit

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