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Thousands of Jewish Americans and Allies Demand Cease-Fire in Gaza
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If it’s genocide why is the population of Palestinians GROWING?
https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-united-nations-palestinian-territories-gaza-strip-0b9fbb989fc2411495afd811da4ac6d0
Where in the definition of genocide does the attempt have to be successful before you call it genocide or try stop it?
Did you not read the UN Convention on Genocide? You know, the things Jewish people said they'd never forget?
Here's a PDF it's only like 4 pages: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf
Whether or not it's true if the population is increasing in spite of all of these things isn't relevant. What's relevant is that Israel is attempting several of them (only need 1 for it to be genocide), and they have been for several decades.
yes, for the last 18 years Palestinians haven't had anything to do, and had such horrid conditions that they had a population boom and over 50% of the people in the Gaza Strip are under 18 years old, but interestingly these population booms only happen when a group of people hits on extremely bad circumstances for a longer period of time
So how is that a genocide then?
relocations are a major part of it.
Facts don't matter to these Anti Semites.
The UN has issued countless human rights notices against Israel, and how many against Hamas or Saudi Arabia?
It's a clearly biased organization that people alternatively take as gospel when it suits their needs or ignore when it doesn't.
It's obviously not a genocide. If it were, Gaza wouldn't have a growing population. It's really that fucking simple, you can't redefine something to suit your bullshit narrative.
Israel isn't trying to destroy a people or a nation. The millions of Arabs living peacefully in Israel are proof of that. They're GOING to destroy a terrorist organization that's holding a territory hostage though.
People calling out Israel's crimes isn't being antisemitic. Israelis forcing Palestinians from their homes, creating illegal settlements, running an apartheid state, having a large open air prison were half the population are children, and constantly killing Palestinian children is fucking abhorrent. Fuck Israel and fuck anyone that supports their crimes against humanity.
You're here supporting terrorists who explicitly call for the extermination of the Jewish people. You're holding Israel to a standard you refuse to hold others in the region too. They're stuck in the sandbox with terrorists, they're just playing by the same rules they're being subjected to.
I'm supporting the two million Palestinian children that Israel has not only stolen the future of, but also kills and maims on a regular basis. I hold Israel to a higher standard than Hamas because Israel has the power and my tax dollars. Hamas is largely a problem of Israel's own creation. I don't just mean through their crimes they've created animus. They have directly funded Hamas and helped destroy their opposition in Gaza. Really, stop conflating Israel with the Jewish ethnicity and Judaism. It's a really sorry attempt to hide behind the antisemitic claim to escape being called out for crimes against humanity.
Interesting how 2 million Arabs can live peacefully in Israel without fear of daily violence. The 2 million Arabs living in Gaza under Hamas' control, though that's another story, isn't it.
If you are on the side of the Palestinian children, then you would be in favor of Israel taking complete control of the territory. That's how those children will be safe. You don't actually care about those kids though. If you did, you wouldn't be so fucking ignorant about this.
I'm ignorant? Let Israel, the government who is on record calling all Palestinians animals and stating there are no innocents in Palestine, take over is best for those kids? You're just a supporter of genocide, point blank.
Israel is actively bombing truck loads of women and children taking the so-called "safe route" out of Gaza City. Israelis are forcing Palestinians from their homes in Jerusalem, building illegal settlements, and launching terror attacks from said settlements to further encroach on the Palestinians.
Genocide is fucking ignorant and disgusting.
You clearly don't understand what the term genocide means. As noted, there are millions of Arabs living peacefully in Israel. Palestine has a growing population not a diminishing one. Terrorism is being suppressed. There is no genocide.
The corridor was struck by missiles... smaller than Israel uses. Unless you're only reading Al Jazeera then you should be seeing the pictures showing the wreckage that bomb experts are saying is potentially Hamas caused. That's exactly the sort of thing that they're known to do in order to drum up PR. You fell for it. I agree. Genocide is ignorant and disgusting. Hamas' founding charter calls for the genocide of Jews. Interesting how you ignore that. Only one side here is calling for the murder of the other one.
Genocide doesn't have to be completed before you call it genocide. Also, only 24% of the Palestinians in Israeli territory have the right to vote. Additionally, only 64% of the people directly under the control of the Israeli government have the right to vote, the majority of those excluded being Palestinian. So don't give me that shit about "living peacefully," Israel is a goddamn apartheid state.
Israeli officials in the government and the IDF are calling for the genocide of the Palestinians, you're the one ignoring this fact. And again, Israel actually had the ability to carry this out.
I swear, far right zealots like yourself are exhausting, regardless of which flavor you come in.
You're redefining the term to suit your narrative. The population is growing, it's growing faster than it's regional neighbors.
I'm not ignoring the awful comments coming from the victims of terrorism. They're going to destroy their enemies, and they're going to treat them the same way they have been and would be treated. After last week, they've shown there's no other option.
You're holding them to different standards which among you left wing Anti Semites is standard practice. Of course it's exhausting excusing terrorists like you've been doing. I can't imagine being emotionally and intellectually broken enough to do what you do.
All you have is personal attacks, excuses for crimes against humanity by a apartheid religious ethnostate, and outright ignoring legitimate criticism. I'm not an antisemite or racist of any flavor, but you? You're an absolute racist and the worst humanity has to offer. But your behavior is typical of fascists: playing the victim and declaring the enemy to be both overwhelmingly powerful and simultaneously weak as well as subhuman. You are absolutely disgusting.
There's nothing personal about this, you're a bigot. You're holding two groups to different standards and the only difference is one of those groups is Jewish.
You're a disgusting Anti Semite, and the worst part is that you're so blind to it you think you're actually doing good by spreading your bullshit.
wait, aren't you doing the same thing, considering the Jewish power party were a bunch of anti-arab terrorists before they got voted into office?
I'm not supporting the Israeli government, I'm supporting Israelis right to live in Peace. Prior to last week, I was one of that governments vocal critics. Now, like so many around the world, we can see the existential threat against the people of that country and I fully support the elimination of Hamas.
Once that's done, and while it's happening I can still champion the exiting of the West Bank and the promotion of a two state solution.
Hamas needs to be removed for Palestinians to have Peace. Their purpose as clearly laid out in their founding Charter is the destruction of the Jewish people, which means the destruction of the state of Israel which makes it pretty difficult to get a Peace deal in place.
so it's fine for apartheid Israel to run an open air prison and support Hamas to weaken the PA's push towards a 2-state solution for YEARS, but the second it backfires and there are Israeli deaths, then you need to take sides because suddenly the side with power actually experienced the reality of the ethnic conflict they have been pushing
The wall was installed after the last round of terrorism, cutting it by 90+%.
Hamas is responsible for the isolation. They go, the isolation can be lifted.
Israel has the right to defend itself, how they do that I can question. Now that their enemies have started a war, I'm adjusting my attitude to suit.
Really easy way to save Palestinian lives? Hand over the hostages.
Fun fact; Palestinians are Semites.
So being anti Palestine is, by definition, anti Semitic.
This is beyond ignorant.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism
Educate yourself before you embarrass yourself again.
I’m not saying all of these commenters are anti semites but many of them have been conditioned to basically think that whatever Hamas does is a legitimate way of responding to grievances (some certainly with merit) and whatever Israel does respond to that is genocide.
If Al qaeda was based in Canada what would the U.S. have done after 9/11? Let them just continue to operate?
I have asked several posters on here to give me some better options for Israel than to destroy Hamas. So far not a single one has obliged.
not force exodus everything east of Quebec?
They can't engage because then they'll need to admit their hypocrisy and bias.
Israel's being held to a standard different than everyone else in the region. They understand better than most western nations what it's like to live in that sandbox. They're playing by the same rules as their neighbors and after last week the people blaming them don't have a leg to stand on..