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[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is not valid in all cases as I know multiple Russians and those living in EU continue to do so with no issue and those living in RU say it doesn't affect them. You can even find interview with random RU citizens in RU and they all say it doesn't affect them or that they want to attack UA BC Nato boarder is too close.

[-] Razp@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You missed the point :

Russia invades and terrorises the Ukrainian civilians. We punish Russian civilians aka collective punishment.

Hamas invades Israel and terrorises Israeli civilians. Israel punishes Gaza civilians aka collective punishment.

In the first case we are OK. In the second case we scream at Israel (the OP post) "Collective punishment is war crime!!"

We. Are. Hypocrites.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think I missed the point though.

I'm ststating that Russians don't seem to be directly afected aside from having their favorite EU vacation destinations accessible via France or Turkey instead directly from Moscow. It means that so called collective punishment was either ineffective or so mild, that it had almost no effect on dayly lives of citizens.

You compare this with bombing city, being cut out of water, food, medicine and energy.

If anything, Russians collectively punished Ukrainians by shelling,detroying their energy and tradic infrastructure to make winter as bad as possible for UA.

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