Rural life is a whole different beast from urban. I won't ever make the argument that rural living people shouldn't have cars. So yeah, plus one for that argument.

In what world is a disabled person able to board a car on their own but not a bus or train? And in what world are those busses and trains not staffed with people to help? Are we talking self-driving busses and cars with wheelchair driving options as a standard?

Edit: Seems the response is for the disabled person to: JuSt SpEnD mOrE mOnEy ; but we couldn't possibly be bothered to spend more on public transit to make it more accessible.

I didn't say it had to be an individual who needed to help. It could be any number of programs, services, or even yeah, individuals.

I mentioned mixed use buildings in another part of this thread, something like an apartment complex with a bodega-like grocery on the first floor or directly attached. What about moving more towards that kind of building? There are a ton of solutions that don't require cars.

I traveled up and down the East Coast with my dad when he was in a wheelchair. Every city was a little different but Amtrak has made their trains this way. A special ramp is needed, which has to be fetched by someone. Baltimore was the worst about it, but they did get us on just fine, and kicked a guy out of the handicapped starting. New York City was incredible. Dude hung out with us until our train showed up and made sure we got on and situated before regular boarding started. Though I think he had dealt with something similar personal and took it upon himself. DC was at about the level you'd expect and was pretty pleasant.

Man. There's a Korean drama on Netflix... I think it was All of Us Are Dead. The apartment building had a bodega-like grocery either on the first floor or connected to it. If we're going to redesign, can it be like that, maybe?

And that's something we can look into, but it's no reason to stop walkable towns.

Even old blind people who can't pass driving tests use Uber or Lyft, because public transport simply isn't safe or suitable enough for them, especially during grocery runs.

You are assuming a car centric city here. In a walking and transit oriented city, it is safe and suitable for blind people to be independent and move by themselves. Only cars make the cities unsafe and the lack of transit makes it unsuitable to use something else than a car.

What? I said it depends on the disability. Depending on why you can't walk to the store, a bike or e-bike might work. Not every disability is the same. I know people that can't walk to the store but can use an e-bike.

How is a mobility scooter too small for a disabled person? It's literally designed for the purpose. And by Microcar I mean what you see in Amsterdam as microcars, not 'a small car'.

Yes that’s how it works. You save some money and spend it in other shit.

Also I don’t have a car just so I can go get groceries. I have a car for a multitude of other reasons and I can get groceries. Driving 5 mins to a supermarket has an insignificant cost, and if that supermarket is cheaper then you can save multiples of that.

Regarding the stuff expiring, that’s just your experience. I have the opposite. There’s plenty of non perishable shit that I can get when it’s on sale because I can carry a ton of it if I came by car. Meanwhile if I go shopping by foot and I need laundry detergent I’ll just have to get whatever they have at that time. You can save a ton of money like that.

For easily perishable food yes buying regularly is better but that also means a ton of wasted time going to the supermarket very frequently even if to get only a few items.