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Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 93 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

That's been happening for the last 5,000 years in that region though, since the Canaanites.

It's not like the Palestinians were the first there.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Palestinians are descendants of the ancient canaanites. Most of the people in that region never left they just changed their religion at some point. This hasn't always been happening, in Ottoman times Christians Jews and Muslims peacefully coexisted in the region.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, kinda? They're also heavily descended from 7th Century AD Arabic conquerors, but yes, many other natives may have adopted Arabic culture, language and religion at that time.

But Jewish culture is also derived from the Canaanite culture, with arguably more overlap. Jewish culture in the region can be traced back to at least the 9th Century BC, with the literal Kingdom of Israel. So the argument of "Well who was there first?" does not necessarily favor the Palestinians over the Israelis.

This has always been happening though. It's not like the Ottomans took over the region peacefully. It's been conquered and re-conquered by Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans...

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Palestinian culture is also derived from canaanite culture. Arabs are semitic people and follow abrahamic traditions. When places get conquered usually the ruling class changes but the lower class people stay in their homes and just change language/religion/identity. Usually the new rulers don't try to completely wipe out the inhabitants of their new land the way israel is doing with Palestinians

[-] joseangel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's why I love this video, it explains it very well in a graphic manner:

https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=maslr0cZLs-xmTl5

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[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

One group took 2 years to organize an attack on civilians, the other didnt...

[-] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

The other has been attacking them for decades...

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This was on a different level though. Taking civilian hostages? Launching rockets with the target being a music festival?

[-] Strawberry 20 points 2 years ago

Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights press release outlining large scale targeting of peaceful protesters, women, children, people with disabilities, paramedics and journalists by Israeli snipers: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2019/02/no-justification-israel-shoot-protesters-live-ammunition

BBC report on the killing of Christian American-Palestinian journalist and subsequent attack of her funeral: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y11CVGz7toM

BBC article about the Human Rights Watch report detailing Israel's crimes of apartheid: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56898864

The majority of Gaza children suffer from PTSD caused by the constant conditions of warfare, psychological study: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2020.00004/full

Human Rights Watch report on "indiscriminate" bombing of schools by IDF forces: https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/09/11/israel-depth-look-gaza-school-attacks

Al Jazeera article about Israel bombing a refugee camp housing refugees of Israel's air strikes: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/14/israels-bombardment-of-gaza-continues-live

Amnesty International—Israeli airstrikes targeting civilian housing constitute war crimes https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/05/israelopt-pattern-of-israeli-attacks-on-residential-homes-in-gaza-must-be-investigated-as-war-crimes/

Article by the Intercept about Israeli airstrikes targeting medical facilities: https://theintercept.com/2021/05/21/gaza-bombing-hospital-israel/

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[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

when did Israel specifucally taregt civilians?

They do it often. Here's a particularly nasty one from 2009, there are plenty more if you care to look.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza

[-] Tom_bishop@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Dont forget Israel bombed Associated Press & Al Jazeera office building in 2021 for reporting against them

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Both sides constantly attack civillians.

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