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Being Mean to Scabs Is Working (www.motherjones.com)
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Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher are now not resuming their shows amid strikes.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I never understood this view. What's so terrible about not supporting people or things you don't agree with? That's what people should be doing.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s not about not supporting, it’s generating outrage online about stuff nobody cared about until the day before.

I’m all for not supporting people who don’t deserve it, I regularly do it too. But one thing is ignoring and another is actively harassing people for stuff they probably already forgot about.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Boycotting and harassing are two very different things, and "cancel culture" is a right-wing buzzword that conflates them.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Cancel culture is just a boycott that's so effective, it's disastrous to not at least compromise.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Most of the times I see the term in regards to people, not products/brands/companies, so I think the boycotting part is way less prevalent and rightfully called just “boycotting”.

I’ll admit I haven’t researched the origin of the term (and it’s probably on the same level as “woke” in number of different definitions), but to me it’s mostly about people saying or doing something “controversial” and getting harassed/ostracized for that.

And I say it’s terrible because when it affects fragile people, or generally people with a conscience, it works and ruins careers. When it’s towards ones like J.K. Rowling or Kanye West they just don’t care and keep working, making money like crazy while still being openly transphobic/racist.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

it’s generating outrage online about stuff nobody cared about until the day before.

Oh you mean like Critical Race Theory, Drag Shows, and getting vaccinated?

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Uhh… yes? Are you trying to frame me as some sort of right-wing nutjob? People who complain online about Drag Shows and Vaccines are not okay in the head, but what does that have to do with the discussion?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

what does that have to do with the discussion?

What do examples of cancel culture being used for bad things have to do with cancel culture being bad?

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh you meant people who get harassed because they complain about those things. I thought you were saying the opposite.

Well then no, it’s the opposite of what I was saying. Arguably everyone was on board with the fact that vaccines were good before covid, and then it became “controversial”. No one is getting “cancelled” because of a 10-year old tweet against vaccines, because if they tweeted that 10 years ago people would’ve already been angry at that time.

I’m talking specifically about the times a satirical thing from ages ago that no one cared about at the time gets dug up and ruins careers because if it was said now it would be problematic.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, so nothing at all to do with what the article is about. You can see why people might have misunderstood right?

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The person I replied to brought up the thematic of "cancel culture" as a whole, and I said what happened in the article was good. I get why people misunderstood but I think I was clear enough in my first comment in saying this is a (rare) instance where it achieved a good thing and I wasn't talking about that.

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