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[-] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Seems very ungrateful to the job creators and innovators that just because the economy doesnt work for you, you want to wreck it for us too. Why not try starting up your own car company instead of cutting into the profits of the hard working Ford and GM families.

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

User is a sarcastic concept account cosplaying as the most ridiculous pro-billionaire stooge possible 😁

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It's almost like acting like a dumbass and being a dumbass are identical to each other!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

To the unobservant, yes.

Not their fault that end stage capitalism and the resurgence of fascism have made the most braindead takes mainstream enough that it's more difficult to spot the difference between sincere idiocy and satire 🀷

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

Satire isn't just 'say a ridiculous thing and hope people don't take it seriously'. There's supposed to be an element of commentary. This guy is basically just a pro billionaire bot spitting out what they actually believe.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, you clearly haven't a clue what you're talking about. If you'd had just a cursory glance at their comment history you'd have found such gems as "ABUB: Always Be Union Busting" and this one:

Under capitalism I allow my workers no such thing, they must toil physically for a full work day and if I catch a whiff of complaint or dissent, I threaten them with unemployment. Not only will the trenches not dig themselves but my profits don't come out of thin air. I need them to work extra hard so I can pay off my second sailing yacht (one stays in the carribean, the other in the med) this year and put a down payment on a third (south pacific).

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

What, is this your alt or something? You're really licking this guys butthole over some mediocre 'satire'.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it can't be that you're wrong and I'm correcting your nonsense. Has to be rimming. πŸ™„

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wrong about what? You think this guy is some comedic genius and I disagree. He sounds like what actual bots and shills say. I have a feeling you're more invested than just a 'fan' of this random internet account, but if you are just riding some random persons dick then that's kinda sad lol.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You think this guy is some comedic genius and I disagree

Never said comedic genius. I said satirical account and implied that I personally find it funny. Your strawman and mischaracterizarion of your own stance doesn't change the fact that you keep insisting it's a sincere account in spite of the evidence.

He sounds like what actual bots and shills say.

That's always been the problem with satire: extremely confident idiots insisting that it's sincere. If I had a dollar for every time someone shared an article from The Onion thinking it was straight news, I'd buy the Eiffel tower.

I have a feeling you're more invested than just a 'fan' of this random internet account, but if you are just riding some random persons dick then that's kinda sad lol.

Yeah, it's me trying to talk some sense into your thick skull that's sad, not you acting like admitting you were wrong is a fate worse than death 🀦

I'm stubborn and am used to arguing with a brother who's pigheaded like you. What's your excuse?

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

I never said it's sincere learn to read. I said it sounds like a bot either way. Maybe you're getting usernames mixed up? I just think it's dumb.

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the person you're responding to is definitely an alt of "bad at satire" guy lol. They're salty as hell and dickriding this guy because they are this guy haha.

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Are we supposed to check comment history every time we see some moron that's bad at satire make a comment that's identical to actual bootlicker rhetoric?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, only the times when you make definitive statements about comment patterns and the overall quality and nature of the entire account.

You know, the rare occasions where it's actually what determines whether you have a point or are full of shit and doubling down to avoid having to just admit that the subtle difference between satire and stupidity eluded you 🀷

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you have to point out that you're doing satire, you're pretty dogshit at satire.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Or some of the audience didn't get the joke and doubled down on being right to, as was the case here.

A lot of people thought that A Modest Proposal was sincere and as I mentioned to another of the wooshed complainers, people who didn't get it share The Onion articles as if they were real news all the time.

If satire is TOO obvious, it loses its edge. If it's easy to be understood immediately by those actively wanting it to be sincere, it's not good satire, so I guess you only like bad satire like Babylon Bee or whatever equivalent fits your politics better πŸ™„

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Dude, I'm a big fan of satire. You're still here, days later, trying to convince me of how funny this "satire" is and how I don't get it. Satire and dry humor are a second language to me. This is just a very shitty attempt at satire. Go take a nap or something.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You're still here, days later, trying to convince me of how funny this "satire" is

Because you're still here, days later, insisting that you not getting it automatically means that it was bad or not even satire.

Satire and dry humor are a second language to me

Must be damn near illiterate then

This is just a very shitty attempt at satire.

It's ok to admit you didn't get it at first. You don't have to deflect your feelings of inadequacy.

Go take a nap or something.

I have. And I'll stop replying to your bullshit when you stop giving me bullshit to refute 🀷

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry, all I heard was you have a shit sense of humor and don't understand satire.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Must be an echo of yourself you're hearing then.

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So making fun of bootlickersin a room full of people who don't like bootlickers is a bad thing now?

Or are you just expecting people to be too stupid to spot the differences between playing a loathsome persona for laughs and being a loathsome person?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

First I didn't get that it was a joke. Then I got that it was a joke and it was an okay joke. Then I saw the joke over and over. Now I'm sick of the joke and I downvote it (not that it helps).

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks for being honest about yucking our yum, I guess 🀷

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Sorry, I've just seen it in too many posts now and it is tiresome to see so many people get fooled by it every time.

[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I'm impressed that you made it through posting that comment without drowning in bullshit. Bravo.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Uhhhh what?! Lol the car manufacturers made $32 billion in profit last year. A record amount. Are you honestly going to say there's not enough money to pay their works a livable wage? The union isn't even being out of line for what they are asking for. 400,000 workers even devided across everyone equally (which isn't what the are asking.) would be $80,000 a year. That's a life changing amount of money for those workers cbd would do better in their hands, apposed to a few executives and owners. However, that's not even close to what they are asking for! So you are lying or dumb.

[-] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The car manufacturers need that profit to distribute to their shareholders, or do stock buyback or whatever best benefits the share price etc. By doing so they are helping the whole economy and that money will eventually trickle down to the little guys in some form or another.

For example: instead of giving all that money to the greedy UAW, GM can use it to buy back their stock. The price of the stock and the net worth of the people who own most of it therefore goes up. They borrow against that stock for a new yacht in the Mediterranean and use it to visit a charming seaside village in Greece or Italy. They eat at the nicest restaurant in the nicest resort in that village.

Now, you see how that money helped the villagers who otherwise never would have seen a dime of it? The auto workers aren’t going to spend any of that money in Greece or Italy. Not to mention support the families of boat-makers, boat-loan-processors etc along the way.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

"oh well someone please think of the poor shareholders and executives making millions off other peoples labor!"

The is no trickle down. It's been 70 years of that crap and it gets more moronic every time. There is no evidence that high executive pay or shareholder payouts benefits the economy. Just out right lies. What the Villiers should do is murder the people hording resources and spend their vacations in Greece and Italy.

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