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[-] Chivera@lemmy.world 179 points 1 year ago

Billionaires the original welfare queens.

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 173 points 1 year ago

What the UAW is doing here is fighting for all workers. This sets precedents that ripple across all industries. What formed the UAW back in 1937 took some balls, and so does this.

It's not communism to fight for dignity and a living wage. We're practically fighting for some more table scraps, but the rich are acting like we're threatening social fabric.

Go and get it Shawn, this is exactly what we all need right now. Support the UAW.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

In the last 20 years, we've seen the most rapid rise in productivity since the industrial revolution, and just like in the wake of the industrial revolution, there was massive worker exploitation that led to reforms and eventually unionization that ushered in a golden age of labor in America where workers were fairly compensated for the work they provided, so much so that it was easy for a salaryman to support a nuclear family on his single paycheck.

Since then, the business owner class has been working hard to dismantle unions while refusing to pay their fair share of the massive profit windfalls to the bottom rung workers. We are long overdue for sweeping multi-industry unionization effort. Only then will we start seeing something more than just table scraps.

[-] theuberwalrus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Fighting for dignity actually is literally communism. It's capitalist propaganda that has you convinced otherwise.

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 157 points 1 year ago

Fuck yea, love to see militant labor fighting for what they need

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 144 points 1 year ago

Even China knows this. Give the hard working people a better job than mom and dad had and they won't rebel.

The people who are rolling in their next billion have forgotten what happens when you take that away.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 year ago

China is about to find out as well, they have something like a 30% new-grad unemployment rate, and Pooh Bear is on a bootstraps kick saying that social protections encourage laziness.

They're on even thinner ice than the US.

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[-] calavera@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

They are in the economic industrial boom that already happened to western countries decades ago. The problem is that eventually all booms end

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 36 points 1 year ago

That is just buying into accepting the current model where the rich can have it all at the expense of the poor. The model is the problem not the amount we have to distribute.

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[-] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 114 points 1 year ago

Holy based, I didn't know there were any unions with a backbone left in America

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The UAW has always been pushing for Americans as a whole. Hats off to them.

[-] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but Fain is the first democratically elected UAW leader (prior leadership was chosen by delegations and was fraught with racketeering and embezzlement) and it shows.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 99 points 1 year ago
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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 93 points 1 year ago

I vote for wrecking the rich's yachts. There's even a great capitalist reason to do it: the companies that build them might make new sales! Win-win!

[-] clanginator@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

When you think about it, at that point at least the rich are spending their money again in order to buy another yacht, actually putting money into the economy.

It's like trickle down economics, but we gotta shoot some holes in the water tower to make it trickle down.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

This is actually an example in The Wealth of Nations; Adam Smith considers whether a hooligan smashing a window is a benefit to society because it creates work for the glazier.

Smith concluded that no, it isn't a net benefit because the glazier could have made a new window instead.

However, given that megayachts are net negative to society, I'm not sure how he'd view this case.

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[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Better yet, train orcas to attack yachts!

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Buddy, youre not gonna believe this...

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[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago

That's red hot commie stuff right there. I like it :)

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[-] Transcriptionist@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

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X/Twitter post by user Teddy Ostrow @TeddyOstrow reading '"In their economy, workers live paycheck to paycheck while the billionaires buy another yacht... So we're gonna wreck their economy cuz it only works for the billionaire class," says @UAW prez Shawn Fain in Detroit.'

Attached is an image of UAW president Shawn Fain speaking passionately at a targeted strike rally against the Detroit Big Three automakers (General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis).

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[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

I like this Shawn. I really do. He's saying the words and doing the actions. Go Shawn! Go!

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 57 points 1 year ago

The more I hear about this guy, the more I like him.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Why not? Megacorps and billionaires wreck the economy all the time, and exploit it for their favor.

Why not let the poor and worker class wreck it for once.

Set the whole goddamn thing on fire, and throw the rich into it.

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[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Fucking legend. Hats off to him and the UAW

[-] LeatherRebel@leminal.space 46 points 1 year ago

hell yeah fuck the oligarchy

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is something I wonder about. Inflation makes the poor poorer but when asked, economists are like "trust us, inflation is good".

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 year ago

A small amount is good. Deflation makes it so not spending money is more beneficial. The longer you wait to spend the more the money is worth. This causes fewer products and services to be purchased, which pays for wages. Inflation makes the opposite true. The longer you wait to spend your money the less it's worth. It encourages spending, not saving. Inflation that outstrips increases to pay is obviously very bad though.

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

At this point I am all for a plan that will fuck me over but takes them down with me. Let's do this shit.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

When you have no roof over your head and it rains, just make a tarp from the skin of a landlord.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago
[-] pizzahoe@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago

Let's goooooo 🔨

[-] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 42 points 1 year ago

What are the odds this fella doesn't get CIA'd soon?

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago

Burn everything down if that happens.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 38 points 1 year ago

Only problem with this is that this doesn’t even hurt the ultra rich - every catastrophe is just a new investment opportunity for them. E.g. after Brexit they just moved their money and businesses out of the UK, leaving the poor schlebs who live there to deal with it.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

If conditions are unlivable for too many people, that's bad and it calls for a re-negotiation of everything. It also bears reminding today's leisure class/ultra-wealthy that part of the basis for their existence as such was always a trade-off between them paying their workers enough to live with dignity and the metaphorical torches and pitchforks and guillotines staying in mothballs

[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

"For the fired auto workers Who were twisted, tricked and robbed To the peasant in Guatemala In a sweatshop got your job And she can't feed her family On the pennies that she makes Meanwhile the crime rate's rising Up and down the Great Lake states

Like vegetables left in the field The signatures smell rotten On the contracts and the deeds That push the race down to the bottom As they load the rubber bullets As they fire another round I'm heading into the tear gas Dig in man, hold your ground

For Joe Hill and Cesar Chavez Who fought in their own time For our brothers and our sisters Up and down that picket line For the unnamed and unnumbered Who struggle brave and long For the union men and women Standing up and standing strong"

Tom Morello/The Nightwatchman - Union Song

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

On my commute home yesterday I encountered a "wide load" convoy that was hauling a millionaire's yacht down the highway. Not a mega-yacht, just a yacht. I don't care that it was just a millionaire's yacht, I felt compelled to roll down the window and give it the bird.

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 22 points 1 year ago

I used to work for a guy who inherited the family company. He used every single loop hole and dirty trick to pay his employees as little as possible, no benefits or insurance... Nothing.

He found out I was turning 40. His advice to me was "a man's age should never be a higher number than the footage of his boat".

He didn't understand that I don't own a boat, didn't own a house, didn't even own my car.

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[-] Smoltech@lemmyunchained.net 26 points 1 year ago

I think a perspective shift is necessary.

"Destroy the economy" is about sabotage.

"Work for each other and against wealthy investors" would result in a smaller economy, but the focus is on the positive thing built, instead of just sabotage.

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[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago
[-] rynzcycle@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah brother

[-] dynamo@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Is it a smart move? No. But it's the only one that could work

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

If it's the last move you have left, it's the only smart move.

We've tried playing by their rules, and the game is rigged against us. So now we make a new game.

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