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Naw, I was like, "boo bigotry," and you were like, "Yeah, but it's understandable in this case, and also, it's worse for the Roma so I can’t believe you think they're the same 🤓."
I think that making fun of Americans or not being fond of them in response to the decades of American exceptionalism messaging falls below the threshold of bigotry. But you seem to think that it doesn't. That's what makes it seem like you are putting that one the same level as serious issues of bigotry.
I stand against all forms of bigotry, period. You don't.
I do actually stand against bigotry, I just have reasonable standards for what qualifies as bigotry. That you just made that statement reinforces my point that you are treating making fun of braggart Americans as being as heinous as actual forms of bigotry.
What do you base that on? Or are you just fucking around again?
So you've stopped being sincere again. But we do seem to have settled on you actually were putting mocking Americans at the same level as actual bigotry. Were you just fucking around before when you took exception to that observation?
Jesus christ, I knew Americans were dumb, but it's worse than I thought.
I'm calling you out on the bigotry you accept, but turning it back on you because obviously you don't believe those things about yourself. And you don't deserve to be judged by other people's bigoted perceptions.
I don’t think all bigotry is on the same level no matter how many times you say it. But an American probably dosen't even understand that they can be bigoted.
I just don't buy that making fun of people going on about how they are number one is bigotry. I think calling it that is what cheapens actual bigotry. How much of what you just said was sincere and how much is just fucking around?
Godamn, you actually believe that shit and think it's OK. Remarkable.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
You are a bigot. You seem to be ok with that, and that's fine. People being bigger bigots than you dosen't justify it.
Which if you take the unreasonable stance that making fun of Americans for bragging for decades is bigotry makes sense. But I still can't tell what you actually believe. I assume that you were not being serious when you used a circular definition for labeling me a braggart but that's a risky assumption. I'm guessing that you are being disingenuous and trying what you think is a clever rhetorical method of being insulting to me for being an American so that you can bait me into saying that you yourself are being a bigot. It really is hard to distinguish your fucking about from what you really believe.
You actually think those things about Americans because you are a bigot. You believe those things so wholeheartedly that you don't even see that they're not true, even for yourself.
Believe what things?
The things you downplay as just "making fun of." The dumb shit you believe about people.
Let me put it this way.
I work within a large international collaboration. If I "made fun of" these types of stereotypes about my colleagues, then I would be looked down upon for that ignorance, rightfully so. And our work would suffer for it. And if they believed similar things about me, I would lose respect for them too, for being bigots.
If I tried to brush off my actions by saying, "Come on, it's no big deal. I'm just making fun, it's not on the same level as others, etc." I'd probably end up in HR. Again, rightfully so
Make sense?
So we come back to the point that American exceptionalism was a huge part of America's messaging and something that the majority of them believed and didn't question at the time. Hell large portions of Americans believe that still. That's real. It was baseless bragging and self promoting most of the time. Or are you referring to something else? Responding to that arrogance with the same measure of disrespect or scoffing openly at the claims isn't bigotry. Make sense?
What the fuck are you talking about. You ascribing those views to an entire group is the problem. And it is bigotry no matter how self-righteous it makes you feel.
So I'm not ascribing it to the entire group, that's an unfounded leap on your part. Majority doesn't mean entirety. Give "history of American exceptionalism" a Google. This isn't some fringe idea. So again not bigotry. It's a real wide spread thing.
OK 👍, I'll just make fun of people from another country and justify it by saying a "majority" of them believe it, so it must be true for them.
It makes sense that you think you are exceptional, how arrogant, how typical.
Goodnight, bigot.
I still can't tell if you are just fucking around again or if you are sincerely saying that I think I'm exceptional. I think you lost track of that thread too. You should consider being honest and straightforward in conversations instead of this convoluted ambiguous fucking around.