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[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Which if you take the unreasonable stance that making fun of Americans for bragging for decades is bigotry makes sense. But I still can't tell what you actually believe. I assume that you were not being serious when you used a circular definition for labeling me a braggart but that's a risky assumption. I'm guessing that you are being disingenuous and trying what you think is a clever rhetorical method of being insulting to me for being an American so that you can bait me into saying that you yourself are being a bigot. It really is hard to distinguish your fucking about from what you really believe.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

You actually think those things about Americans because you are a bigot. You believe those things so wholeheartedly that you don't even see that they're not true, even for yourself.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

The things you downplay as just "making fun of." The dumb shit you believe about people.

Let me put it this way.

I work within a large international collaboration. If I "made fun of" these types of stereotypes about my colleagues, then I would be looked down upon for that ignorance, rightfully so. And our work would suffer for it. And if they believed similar things about me, I would lose respect for them too, for being bigots.

If I tried to brush off my actions by saying, "Come on, it's no big deal. I'm just making fun, it's not on the same level as others, etc." I'd probably end up in HR. Again, rightfully so

Make sense?

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So we come back to the point that American exceptionalism was a huge part of America's messaging and something that the majority of them believed and didn't question at the time. Hell large portions of Americans believe that still. That's real. It was baseless bragging and self promoting most of the time. Or are you referring to something else? Responding to that arrogance with the same measure of disrespect or scoffing openly at the claims isn't bigotry. Make sense?

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

What the fuck are you talking about. You ascribing those views to an entire group is the problem. And it is bigotry no matter how self-righteous it makes you feel.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So I'm not ascribing it to the entire group, that's an unfounded leap on your part. Majority doesn't mean entirety. Give "history of American exceptionalism" a Google. This isn't some fringe idea. So again not bigotry. It's a real wide spread thing.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

OK ๐Ÿ‘, I'll just make fun of people from another country and justify it by saying a "majority" of them believe it, so it must be true for them.

It makes sense that you think you are exceptional, how arrogant, how typical.

Goodnight, bigot.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I still can't tell if you are just fucking around again or if you are sincerely saying that I think I'm exceptional. I think you lost track of that thread too. You should consider being honest and straightforward in conversations instead of this convoluted ambiguous fucking around.

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