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[-] fneu@discuss.tchncs.de 189 points 1 year ago

They glorify soldiers way too much and teachers way too little

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 156 points 1 year ago

Between the two there is a big difference:

One is a profession that can be a particularly dangerous way of life. Orders from above put you into place far from support, with limited resources, often in contact with hostiles on a daily basis. You're often left to fend for yourself with only what you have on you against overwhelming odds. Command structures often pit you against your peers in petty internal politics around rank. The pay isn't great, and those that stick with it for the long haul to make a lifetime of it often leave scared and mentally injured. It can be a thankless job in putting your life and health on the line to achieve the overall goal.

The other profession usually involves wearing a uniform and enforcing USA's geopolitical interests in other countries.

[-] NeroToro@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago

U got me in the first half not gonna lie

[-] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Ah, the old ~~Reddit~~ Lemmy switcharoo

[-] countsickness@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Hello, future people!

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

It was good but I saw it coming right away lol.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

A family friend of ours just quit his highschool teaching job and is moving his family because he was threatened with a gun in his classroom. The student was expelled, but not arrested and knows where he lives.

I fucking hate it here. Guns need to go.

[-] Bloodwoodsrisen 30 points 1 year ago

As an American, it confuses me as well

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You poor thing, maybe if your teachers were praised more you’d have been taught better and be less confused.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Feel free to enlighten us, O wise one.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I have no idea, I’m just sympathetic to the plight of confused Americans.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Well you’ve certainly confused this one. Though I suspect you’ve confused some Europeans as well

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I was attempting to be humorous; obviously that failed. Surprisingly it doesn’t seem to be apparent to many as to why America glorifies soldiers rather than teachers so I guess I’ll elaborate.

Glorifying soldiers is a nationalistic practice designed to distract from the very real cost of war I.e. the death of young men and women to protect capitalist interests.

It’s a tactic to encourage impressionable people to join ‘for glory’ or prestige when in reality there is very little of either. First hand accounts of literally any war will tell you this.

You could use this same tactic for teachers but historically teaching is seen as a ‘woman’s’ job and so the existing value structures of our society preclude this profession from the same veneration. I.e. the patriarchy is why teachers aren’t glorified in the same way.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's worth noting that the "glorifying soldiers" tactic doesn't really work; the US military routinely falls short of recruiting goals, and among people who do join, patriotism isn't a common given reason.

[-] Bloodwoodsrisen 1 points 1 year ago

The public school system, especially middle which is age 11-13/14 I think, almost never used my accommodations :) at least college is better at that

[-] jpeps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

While travelling in the states, I was so perplexed to see that in some car parks where you'd expect to see disabled parking that there were parking spots for veterans.

[-] sock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

id argue that that's not true but my roommate and his friend made me watch 30+ minutes of commentated (by my friends) WW2 footage. i had to be like "hey man with all due respect i get the appeal I think but im not really interested in the glorification of something this horrific im sorry." they were understanding but that level of interest in something so bleek was crazy.

also they were using WW2 japenese slurs and saying id walk up to that if i were there. and im like NO THE FUCK YOU WOULDNT you wouldnt even make it out of the armored car that took you there bud. people are not as badass as they think they are and soldiers arent badass they just want to see their families again we dont have to cheer them on like the opposing side doesnt also just wanna go home to their families.

ugh

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