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Diogenes was a real one
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Context: The absolute chad on the right is Diogenes of Sinope, ancient Greek philosopher who took Cynicism (asceticism and rejection of social norms) to its logical extremes.
He was once visited by Alexander the Great, yes, that one, where Alexander asked if he could do anything for the famous philosopher, who lived in a clay wine jug in the marketplace by choice.
"Stand a little out of my sun" was Diogenes' reply to the most powerful man in the world.
To that Alexander replied "If I weren't Alexander, I would like to be Diogenes". Supposedly Diogenes agreed, stating that "If I were not Diogenes, I too would like to be Diogenes ".
Another person who we consider to be some kind of genius, but who we'd throw in the psych ward if they appeared in downtown LA right now. People love people who subvert social norms, just as long as they stay in stories, movies, and history and don't actually come near them.
You are completely correct about society abhorring those that reject social norms, but Diogenes was a little different than the average homeless public masturbator. He rejected social norms due to philosophical belief, rather than untreated mental illness.
I mean, it could be both.
It definitely could be both.
He was apparently admired in his own time at least.
Other than the being enslaved bit.
Additional context: the soyjack on the left is what happens when you order pizza in Bavaria while running from authorities.