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In the years following the 2013 debut of Adult Swim’s cartoon phenomenon “Rick and Morty,” its star and co-creator Justin Roiland became a titan of the animation and video game industry and a rock star of youth counterculture. His artistic style and caricatures became ubiquitous in cannabis culture, and his career expanded into producing other animated series, creating NFTs and leading a virtual reality gaming studio. In 2017, a “Rick and Morty” collaboration with McDonald’s led to such a viral frenzy that police had to be called to at least two locations.

But as he partied with Los Angeles’ superstars and traveled the country for conventions, he also found he could use his fame to strike up conversations and develop relationships with young fans, including some who were underage. This is according to interviews with 11 women and nonbinary people who shared thousands of messages with Roiland from 2013 to 2022 — with nine of the people saying he turned the exchanges sexual. Of those nine people, three said they were 16 when they started talking to Roiland. To corroborate their stories, the 11 women and nonbinary people also shared pictures, videos, social media posts, emails, and plane ticket and Uber receipts with NBC News.

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

According to the article he would text underage women but would refuse to meet them until they were 18. Seems like he was operating within the law.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

That's called grooming, it's arguably worse.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure that having sex with underage girls is worse but that's just me.

[-] pythoneer@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

The worst thing is the hypocrisy!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Wow. You think that's actually defensible?

[-] WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

You called him a pedo, but he doesn't appear to be one. Correcting your mistake doesn't mean anyone is defending him.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

How is he not a pedo when he was sexting teenagers? Just because he waited until it was legal to fuck them?

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

He is a pedo he's just smart enough to wait until they're 18 to assault them.

Unfortunately making a pass at a minor isn't in itself illegal anyplace I'm aware of.

Touching one definitely and if he tried to meet up with them in person it would show intent.

Soliciting child porn though? Rape, I mean, he fotced oral sex. That's rape.

The guy should be in prison and I suspect with NBC handing thr cops all of this evidence, someone will charge him with something soon.

[-] frogfruit@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

Sexting minors (under 18) is illegal in most places, including California, even if they're above the age of consent.

[-] TheBERFA@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

....yes? He's waiting till they're 18. Besides the fact that, as someone referenced above, in many states the age of consent is 16, so, if he was really scummy, he wouldn't have even waited at all.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Again, I find it very hard to believe that adults can sext teenagers legally. I'd like some evidence for that claim.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Again, I find it very hard to believe that adults can sext teenagers legally. I’d like some evidence for that claim.

They make lists of illegal acts in the law books, they don't generally list the legal ones. I'm curious if this is a crime as well, so please share with the rest of us if you find the answer to this question.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You're curious if this was a crime, but above you're saying it isn't a big deal because he waited until they were 18 to act. Which is it?

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

you’re saying it isn’t a big deal

Literally nobody said that. Nobody is trying to defend this guy. Suggesting that Roiland was "operating within the law" is a claim of the facts of the case, not a defense of the morality of his actions.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you’re saying it isn’t a big deal because he waited until they were 18 to act.

Where did I say that? Please cite the text.

You appear to be projecting a lot of positions onto my comments that I do not hold. All I've said is that he does not seem to have broken the law based on the article and my own legal knowledge, I never said anything about what was or was not, "a big deal." Having sex with 18-year-olds is not an example of pedophilia, legally speaking.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Your response to me calling him a pedo, not a legal claim mind you, was:

According to the article he would text underage women but would refuse to meet them until they were 18. Seems like he was operating within the law.

That sure sounds like you're saying it isn't a big deal to me.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That sure sounds like you’re saying it isn’t a big deal to me.

Does it? I suggest you work on your reading comprehension then, because I neither wrote nor implied any such thing. I made a legal claim in the text you quoted, not a moral one.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A legal claim in response to a moral claim, which, again, sounds pretty dismissive.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A legal claim in response to a moral claim, which, again, sounds pretty dismissive.

If you construe anything short of picking up a pitchfork and loudly virtue signaling alongside you as disagreement, you're going to mistakenly presume a lot.

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Does it being legal make it okay? And I'm not sure sending sexual messages to 16-year-olds is legal.

[-] solivine@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think they are defending him, but if they're right he's adhering to the letter of the law, not necessarily the spirit of it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Is adults texting sexually explicit things to 16-year-olds legal? I find that hard to believe.

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