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Was there another school shooting or something?
An average of like 10-15 children die every day in US due to being shot. Sure there are more that survive but look like SpongeBob here.
Thats a pretty solid dark joke. Itd also be more realistic and darker if spongebob was black.
Bazinga
That's probably true but not really an answer to the question. Most shot kids are victims of gang violence.
What do you think was meant by "or something?" The question was answered. Meme shows school kids shot up. Gangs or whatever shoots them up. Yes it happened today. Happens everyday.
Okay but it's disingenuous. You can disagree. It's a massive disparity between school deaths and gang violent deaths so I feel it warrants a little more clarity of communication.
I can see why you call it disingenuous but the point of the matter is that children are getting shot. You can break it down into as many catagories as you like, the bottom line is that far too many school aged children are dying violent deaths in a world that has enough knowledge and resources to know what the solutions are to prevent it. The only thing keeping that going at this point is political fuckery.
What's this obsession with minimising school shootings while maximising gang violence? Sounds very much like a racist dog whistle.
Idunno, making guns a lot harder to obtain would help a lot with both and so would replacing a lot of cops in both poorer neighborhoods and schools with social workers and mental health professionals 🤷
That's where you're wrong. Both social workers and mental health professionals can ABSOLUTELY help you reach out to get the help you need and make you better equipped to deal with and change the system, leading to a reduction in poverty. It's less of a band-aid on a broken leg and more one small but extremely beneficial piece of a huge puzzle.
So you want to preserve an injust system because that selfsame system is holding you down?
It's not the worst argument I've heard for maintaining the status quo, but it sure as hell isn't a good one..
I think you're right in what you're saying but not what I think you're implying. The solution to one problem is mental health regulations, the solution to the other is improper use regulations. Which are different, but fall under the same umbrella.
Either way, taking about cars is exactly where I'd take the comparison because it's the only other commonly owned (highly effective) weapon in the us. We require a license to use one and liability insurance to own one, then take that license away if you show that you can't use it properly. That's exactly what if like to see happen to guns.
Is it a massive disparity or is it a simple common demoninator of guns are far too easy to obtain in the US? There is an incredibly strong correlation between stringent gun control and less school and gang shootings of children in many other nations.
"Children" in that stat includes gang members and suicides. Still bad things, but don't misrepresent what's going on.
How is counting dead children misrepresenting what is going on? Dead is dead. When I say I want fewer guns it is because I want fewer deaths, gang members and depressed kids included.
A 17 yo in a gang that is shooting at other gang people and gets shot dead is the same thing as a 10 yo bystander?
Children in those stats are human beings under 18 years old.