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Elon Musk says he refused to give Kyiv access to his Starlink communications network over Crimea to avoid complicity in a "major act of war".

Kyiv had sent an emergency request to activate Starlink to Sevastopol, home to a major Russian navy port, he said.

His comments came after a book alleged he had switched off Starlink to thwart a drone attack on Russian ships.

A senior Ukrainian official says this enabled Russian attacks and accused him of "committing evil".

Russian naval vessels had since taken part in deadly attacks on civilians, he said.

"By not allowing Ukrainian drones to destroy part of the Russian military (!) fleet via Starlink interference, Elon Musk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities," he said.

"Why do some people so desperately want to defend war criminals and their desire to commit murder? And do they now realize that they are committing evil and encouraging evil?" he added.

The row follows the release of a biography of the billionaire by Walter Isaacson which alleges that Mr Musk switched off Ukraine's access to Starlink because he feared that an ambush of Russia's naval fleet in Crimea could provoke a nuclear response from the Kremlin.

Ukraine targeted Russian ships in Sevastopol with submarine drones carrying explosives but they lost connection to Starlink and "washed ashore harmlessly", Mr Isaacson wrote.

Starlink terminals connect to SpaceX satellites in orbit and have been crucial for maintaining internet connectivity and communication in Ukraine as the conflict has disrupted the country infrastructure.

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[-] Oddbin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[-] GoFastBoots@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago

It's a Z in American English. Both spellings are correct.

[-] Oddbin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nope, it comes from Old French which used the same "s" as Latin whereas the "z" is greek. The French standardised to the "s" in the late 1600 which informed the English which had bounced between the Greek and Latin but formalised on "ise" not "ize".

So, nationalise is the correct one here.

[-] GoFastBoots@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

You're entitled to your hill, but as linguistically correct as you may be, linguistics take a back seat to common usage and national variance.

Nationalized and nationalised are both English terms. Nationalized is predominantly used in 🇺🇸 American (US) English ( en-US ) while nationalised is predominantly used in 🇬🇧 British English (used in UK/AU/NZ) ( en-GB ).

[-] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago

Yeah what kind of linguistics dweeb doesn't understand that language is fluid and shapes with time and location.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I'd love to see this tool be held to the spelling standards of old English. You know... to preserve the English language.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Literally the first thing you learn in linguistics is that the malleability in language is why linguistics exists.

[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which is literally why "literally" and "figuratively" as practically interchangable due to misuse of 'literally' as hyperbole. Its figuratively killing me.

[-] AMuscelid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is the hidden most based take in the thread.

[-] Oddbin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, this really upset a bunch of the Lemmy toxic club didn't jt. Honestly, Reddit may be crap but lemmy is doing it's best to ape it's toxicity.

[-] OctopusKurwa@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You came up in here with your irrelevant pedantry and you call other people toxic.

Nobody gives a fuck how you spell nationalize you gobshite

[-] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Upvoting for gobshite

[-] BNE 4 points 1 year ago

Jeez dude, can we all just chill out for a second?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nope. OP is insisting on something despite being wrong and then saying people are toxic. Either they are a weak troll, or actually believe what they write. Either situation deserves the response they got

[-] BNE 3 points 1 year ago

Brother, love the passion but come on - fight something bigger

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

God damn just accept you're wrong. You look like an absolute fool at this point.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Yes, for sure. You are indeed being toxic.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

There's obviously a lot of crossover between musk-dislikers and z-worshippers.

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