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Democracy Now! news clip containing info about Uranium weapons already in Ukraine (supplied by the UK), as well as info about Uranium weapons used in the past (in Iraq), and the effects of their use.

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Mr. Putin is still capable of preventing any harm to Russians from depleted-uranium ammunition by withdrawing all Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Depleted uranium munitions aren't just a risk to Russians. They're a significant heath risk to everyone where they're used--Russian soldiers, Ukranian soldiers, and civilians.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

You’re referring to how Putin has been using them the whole time, right?

Or are we not saying bad things about Russia in this thread?

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Whilst I find it very believable that Russia have been using them the whole time, do you have a source? I did a quick check but all the noise at the moment is about the US and these shells.

It'd just be good to have reference to a source that they are already using them.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm simply stating depleted uranium munitions have health risks for everyone in response to the comment above me seemingly implying they're only a risk to Russians.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

If the Russians withdraw then the munitions won't be used.

[-] cassetti@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, exactly. As cool as DU rounds sound on the battlefield as a competitive advantage for piercing armor. They are a health risk to both the soldiers handling them and absolutely poisons the soil which will have an affect on future generations living on that land.

But I guess that's the point - to scare the russians as well as salt the earth so it's useless irradiated soil for either side to use for decades to come...... Or I'm sure if Russia keeps the land, they'll simply mine it anyways and who gives a hoot about the health of government workers mining resources for the motherland, right?? /s

[-] tram1@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe watch the news clip before commenting...

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This seems like an odd thing to fixate on unless youre sympathetic to the russians.

[-] tram1@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Odd thing to fixate on what? What Uranium is? An American soldiers getting sick from Uranium in Iraq? Learning things? That means you're sympathetic to Putin?

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah youre definitely sympathic to the russians. Piss poor job of hiding it too.

The russians can get the fuck out of Ukraine if they dont want Uranium poisoning through high velocity rounds.

[-] tram1@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

I said "watch the news clip before commenting" because it has American vets being poisoned in Iraq, but I guess you didn't watch either...

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am a chemist. Unlike you I actually know what depleted Uranium is and what the effects on the human body are without needing to be spoonfed by a youtube video. I am also aware of what the russians are doing to Ukrainians there and quite frankly, the russians are the far bigger problem. So I am going to say this again so that you understand: the russians had better get the fuck out of Ukraine or theyre going to die of Uranium poisoning.

[-] tram1@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

WTF is this "I am going to say this again so that you understand"? lol You wanna fistfight or something? You wanna measure our degrees? Please be more polite... I didn't say anything insulting or even extreme, neither did the news clip. You did earlier when you accused me of being pro-Putin for being concerned about fucking Uranium being used in a war which, I assume, is far closer to my home than yours... Also, by your attitude bad scientist.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Take your downvotes and fuck off to rethink why you are the way that you are.

[-] tram1@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago
[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes I am angry. My family is from Ukraine. So yeah its a little bit more personal than most wars are.

[-] tram1@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

OK. I understand this, but you shouldn't accuse people who are concerned about a war or hope for peace of being pro-Putin... Nothing I said, or the video said, is remotely pro-Putin... You instantly made me your enemy, equating me to people who support the opposite side. When things are most emotional one should be careful not to let their feelings cloud their judgment...

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Criticize Ukraine if the country survives. Right now, its just tone deaf.

[-] tram1@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

This is not criticizing Ukraine, it is criticizing the US and the UK... Anyway...

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Oh no! Not the downvotes!

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 6 points 1 year ago

Usually, they just comment on emotion, instead of learning views that don't agree with.

Hopefully, we all keep on learning.

War kills the poor and working class, while making the elite and wealthy class more profit.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ukrainians are going to be poisoned you dumb fuck. The same shit happens everywhere these rounds are used. It poisons the land and water, and if they catch fire the air too. You don't have to be shot with one of these rounds to get contaminated, just ask US soldiers from Iraq

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago

That will not happen. They have won a great amount of area. They may come back to the table for peace talks, again, once they accomplish getting Nikolaev and Odesa.

"Ukraine will fight until the last Ukrainian." Many lives are being lost due to NATO and us, the US.

We, the us, made it happen. We are still involved with foregin nations and creating more wars. We also have 800+ military bases outside of the US.

We are also pushing war with China, Taiwan.

Here is the "extreme" point of view on the Russian Side:

Tim Pool Admits "RUSSIA HAS WON" With Jackson Hinkle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrztrUoTFp4

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao Tim Pool.

Tell us you are an idiot without telling us.

Russia is fucked. They will never have Ukraine. They won't even be a country in a couple of years.

Putin fucked up big time in his mad grab for the glory of the return of the Soviet Union. The vast resources of the Far East of Russia that China is eyeing should have been his move, and he could have expanded Russian trade with metals found there. Nope. Gotta get your paper army decimated by the superior tactics and firepower of the West instead.

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure where you are getting your information from, the US propaganda machine?

We are the ones funding the Ukraine gov't, without us the war would not be possible.

Russia is 4x bigger than Ukraine, with many more people.

Peace talks should be the goal for most people, instead of funding more war that only profits the wealthy class.

More poor and working people are dying, when war is brought upon us by the elite of the world to make money.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia is 4x bigger than Ukraine, with many more people.

Which makes it all the more embarrassing for them, and even more of an indictment of their corrupt Mafia state's effectiveness, that this so-much-bigger country is having its ass handed to it by Ukraine with the help of the West's old surplus weapons.

More poor and working people are dying, when war is brought upon us by the elite of the world to make money.

Yeah, sure would have been nicer for everyone if Russia had stayed out of Ukraine.

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago

In the US, we fight small countries for resources and profit, way smaller than Ukraine.

We have 800+ military bases outside the US ready to start wars with many.

NATO and US has a lot tobdo with the war, similar thing is happening in Taiwan, China.

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