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You mean you'd pay the same amount for a house as a landlord pays? But you can do that now, why don't you?
Has nobody ever informed you that growing demand leads to price growth only if supply grows slower? But if prices grow, then supply does also grow faster. These are feedback loops.
Which means that what a house costs now it would cost still, after a short transient process.
"Suck all supply", my ass. You mean that you'd buy that house for 1/10 of what the landlord has paid for it, because it'd just be there, like a mushroom after rain? It wouldn't get built, dummy, cause it wouldn't be worth the money.
Except highers supply doesn't bring prices to same level.
The only reason prices are 10 times bigger is because landlords ready to pay those prices.
Bad, bad, very bad boy.
Hahahahahhaaha. I'm not sure if you really think that way or only pretending.
If there are no artificial limitations to supply, and no demand growth, it eventually will. Eventually as in time of regulation.
They are ready to pay those prices because their tenants are ready to pay the prices they, in turn, offer. Which means that they don't inflate demand.
You are illiterate in economics. I really don't get why do you think putting "laugh" in text would negate that.
The only reason their tennats are "ready" to pay the prices is exactly because corporate landlords bought everything. AKA sucked the supply.
We are talking about 100x profit vs 10x profit for developers.
OK, maybe I was too quick to judge. See, in my country most landlords own 1-3 apartments which they rent out. That includes new construction. The idea of "corporate landlords" is not very common here.
If there's no way a person willing to be such a 1-3 apartments' landlord can buy realty to rent out in USA - then you may be right.
If there is, then my position doesn't change.
You are saying that rent a landlord collects from an apartment in 10 years (you may make it 5 years or 20 years, should be the span of time in which landlord's investment should return) is 10x the price for which the landlord buys it? That is, what you pay to a landlord in 1 year is the cost of the apartment plus utilities plus decoration plus furniture? I suspect this is not true.
Cost of apartment if landlord would not participate in bidding. For person it would be 10%, not 100%.
It wouldn't, because a landlord proxies tenants' bidding.
It's funny, I had some course (or maybe it was after class activity) for one year called don't remember what in school (2 different things, one kinda economics, one kinda sociology), we'd basically roleplay political systems and economic systems.
It'd give you the correct answer very quickly. Only you need a group of 20+ who are not all friends (like in a class).
Since we're throwing numbers around, give me your best guess as to the cost of building an apartment block, per unit. Ignore the cost of land for now.
I'm curious to see if you're going to notice a problem with your logic or not.
Abooout 50-150k₽/m² of unit area or 0.5-1.5k$ depending on local labour cost, cost of materials in that area, building height and other stuff.
EDIT: found mention that Yaroslavl Department of Building says it costs 48k₽/m² of some area(need to look in source). If it is cost of buiding entire building per total area(roof in not added), then per unit it would be around 58k₽/m² of unit. To buy unit after being built it would be around 150-500₽/m².