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First Lady tests positive for COVID
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We didn't?
See my other comment:
https://kbin.social/m/news@lemmy.world/t/425137/-/comment/2146352
It wasn't endemic when we could have stopped it, jackass.
Again, "If we give up everyone will keep getting it" is not smart prediction, it is reckless indifference.
We could have shut down and vaxxed up (at gun point) early in the plague and stopped it.
We were never going to completely eliminate this virus. No epidemiological expert ever suggested that was possible. The 1918 pandemic flu also became just another annually circulating endemic virus. That's how it works
Because. You fuckers. Refuse to fight disease.
Saying "it would have been impossible" doesn't make you any less culpable in the death you contribute to by spreading that lie.
You are reading a whole lot of stuff I have never said.
I'm a nurse who spent the entire pandemic in ICUs with patients dying of Covid. I fully advocated quarantines and mask policies (and still advocate masking). I was one of the earliest people in the entire nation to get the vaccine (two weeks after it was approved) and we were all in a queue high-fiving each other as we got our shots.
Even if we had done all of that perfectly, Covid would not have been completely eliminated and would have become an endemic virus. Because that's how it works.
Endemic is not a judgement of risk. It is a factual epidemiological definition. From a public health standpoint, you don't address an endemic infection the same way you address a novel pandemic one because those interventions will not be effective.
We should continue masking and vaccinating when there is an increase in Covid cases the same way we should have been doing (and weren't) for influenza for the past century.
Funny how "we couldn't have wiped it out" when we eradicated an entire strain of flu during the half-assed lockdowns we did do.
We could have done better than we did, and fuckers screaming, "If we ignore it it will become endemic so stop fighting disease" are a huge reason why.
Epidemiological experts said it would become endemic eventually no matter what we did while simultaneously saying that we should have rigorous control measures in place. Those two statements are not contradictory
And there we go. "It's going to become endemic no matter what" as an excuse to do nothing.
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While simultaneously spreading the lie that was used to justify (and is still being used to justify) inaction.
We could have prevented the situation we are in now.
We collectively chose to actively make things worse and the lies you are spreading were the exact ones used to justify that course of active inaction.
Epidemiological facts are not lies. How people react and what they choose to do with those facts doesn't change the facts
The fact is we could have stopped this with enough political will, we chose not to.
The choice to do this was defended using the same words you are regurgitating now.
You should stop.
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Checking if you have a fever? Too bad we didn't wipe this out when we had the chance, huh?
Why do you not believe the experts who said we should do everything we could to control Covid and that even if we did everything we could to control Covid, it would eventually become an endemic infection. What part of that is difficult to understand?
I am not an antivaxxer. I completely supported quarantines. Facts about how pandemics work are still facts.
What part of "You are using antivaxer talking points" do you not get?
You are repeating word for word the exact justification that was given for ignoring covid.
even if (as you claim) you are not on their side you should not repeat their talking points.
We could have not been where we are now. People saying the words you are saying now is why we are were we are and frankly all of you can fuck off.
It is possible to control disease.
...if you want to at any rate and "It's endemic!" is the rallying cry of people who don't want to.
Antivaxxers choosing to use facts disingenuously to push their agenda doesn't change those facts.
Endemic is a factual statement, an epidemiological definition. It doesn't dictate policy anymore than any other scientific definition does. It is indifferent to politics.
Covid is endemic. We should continue to mask and vaccinate when there is an increase in Covid cases.
Stop repeating their talking points?
You earlier said "we can't control the flu" even though we can and already did make an entire strain go extinct.
I doubt you are on the side you claim you are.
We could have wiped this out.
I give up. Don't believe the epidemiologists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Like you've given up attempting to control disease? Figures.
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So much for giving up. Now apply that to disease and maybe I won't have to watch my friends die anymore.