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As more and more states pass laws targeting "pornographic material" in books and online, they are repeatedly running up against a problem: The Bible has not just a few passages that could be considered indecent

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[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Yes but until they start actively opposing those policies and demanding their politicians do the same, they are still complicit with these policies as their votes are what enable them. Whether or not they personally believe these things is entirely irrelevant. All that matters are the actions and policies, and every conservative voter is this complicit.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately people have different priorities than you or I, I guarantee a politician you have voted for has done something you oppose, and you may have still supported them. That's because you care more about their other policies.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

False equivalency.

"We should focus more on corporate taxes rather than individual taxes" is an opinion; "gay people shouldn't have rights" isn't an opinion, it's hate.

Don't try to pretend these are on the same level. Supporting American conservatism requires a level of moral bankruptcy.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Both are opinion, something being abhorrent doesn't make it not an opinion. Opinions can be hateful.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Yes but I don't have to respect those opinions enough to validate them by acknowledging them. If those are your "opinions" then you're a monster and you can fuck off. Don't expect any respect from me; we need less kid gloves and more people calling out assholes in the world.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Being very wrong doesn't make someone evil. If someone genuinely believes something like that and isn't just saying it be edgy, I'd try to convince them out of it. Just like a flat earther, they believe something that I believe is very wrong.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I never signed up to be the social caretaker of the world. If they're adults, I assume they've had plenty of opportunity to learn. I've devoted way to much of my life already to trying to educate the vile sort of people that vote conservative, I'm fucking done with it. They can go get the kid gloves treatment from their imaginary "tolerant left," this fucking leftist is done with them.

And before you say "but how will things ever change if we don't educate them?":

First, again that's not my job. But more importantly, education is only *one" weapon of change, not the only in our arsenal. We've forgotten how powerful rightly-applied shame can be.

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I fricking hate how we’re expected to gently explain in soothing voices and educate and be understanding of people who damn well want us dead and who wouldn’t even extend someone on the left the courtesy of even pissing on them if they were on fire. We’re supposed to extend them every grace and courtesy while they’re not expected to do the same to us.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You don't have to do what I do. But that doesn't make their wrong opinions not opinions.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Hey dude, your opinion is wrong.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, "wrong" when judging someone's opinion is inherently opinionated so it's redundant for me to say "in my opinion your opinion is wrong"

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