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As more and more states pass laws targeting "pornographic material" in books and online, they are repeatedly running up against a problem: The Bible has not just a few passages that could be considered indecent

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 359 points 2 years ago

The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include "vulgar" content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.

There's no hypocrisy here.

[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 232 points 2 years ago

Selective enforcement is the core of conservative law making.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

Broad generalizations like this do nothing but reinforce echochambers.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 170 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not a broad generalization at all. It's a widespread pattern of hypocritical and contradictory conservative outrage, statements, and laws.

  • "I should be able to teach kids about the Bible in school, but you can't teach them about Yoga"
  • "we can't have vulgar language, oh unless it's from our religious book"
  • "I can't make a cake for you because you're gay and that's against my religion. What do you mean you won't make a Christian cake? That's religious discrimination!"
  • "Happy holidays!??! Happy holidays??! You monster, how dare you wage war on Christmas! We have religious liberty in this country! What do you mean that protects other religions? There's only one God and one religion!"
  • "It's totally fine that the polling places in large democratic areas have hours long waits so long as my polling places are quick and easy"
  • "it's totally fine that a county with 10,000 people has the same number of ballot drop boxes as a country with 3,000,000 people"
  • "marriage is between a man and woman ... and may include 17 divorces; they gays can't have it"
  • "we need to teach kids (i.e., indoctrinate them in the ways of) Jesus not this woke (black history, trans, etc)"
  • "let's let white kids off with a slap on the wrist while we throw a black kid in jail for smoking a plant"
  • "I can't believe a president could have such a scandal in the white house as to have had an affair with an assistant! We need to impeach! No, I don't think extorting an ally for information about an opponent is worthy of an impeachment! Trying to overthrow a legitimate presidental victor with a procedural trick? Nah that's not worth an impeachment either! Oh but hey, this Biden guy's son who lost one of his parents and a sibling in a car crash, that lost his brother to cancer, that has a drug problem, called his dad while he was in business meetings to show off... so you know his dad definitely was up to something! We've got to impeach him over that! What do you mean that was before he was even president and that's completely unprecedented?"
  • "We should totally lock her up for those emails! What do you mean the guy screaming that's son and law did the exact same thing?"
  • "We're sorry we can't appoint a supreme court justice just before the election! Psych! We totally can if it's nominated by OUR president!"
  • "We need law and order in this country! What do you mean Trump broke the law? Nah, I'm not hearing it; this is clearly a partisan witch hunt and the majority conservative staff of the FBI is out to get conservatives! Oh but we'll DEFINITELY weaponize the federal government and go after our political rivals full steam if we get the presidency in 2024"
  • "I believe abortion is amoral, that's why I hid the fact that my ex/current lovers have had one"
  • "I believe homosexuality is amoral, that's why I am one in the closet"
  • "we're going to be the party of health care, but don't watch as we strip you of your federal protections for your health care"
  • "we're the party of the little man, but don't watch as we cut taxes for the rich (and you but make sure that expires under the next term (probably while the Democrats are in power)"
  • "the national debt is an outage! Oh let's spend as much as Obama did in half the time! Oh Biden is in power again, spending is out of control!"
  • "the problem isn't guns it's mental health, but we're not going to do anything about that either! Must be because the kids aren't in church, the gays, video games, or hey look over there, a squirrel!"
  • "climate change? Nah. It's not real. Okay maybe it is, but it doesn't matter because look at China! Oh we could make a dent and get the ball rolling? Well, it's too late anyways, we should've been building nuclear plants! What do you mean I just made that up? Clearly I've been trying to solve this via nuclear the whole time, and it's not another dog whistle! Oh and btw all of my top presidential candidates say they don't believe in man made climate change! But yeah, totally serious about this issue!!"

... and that's just off the top of my head. If you're a conservative, wake up, your party is a mess.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 79 points 2 years ago

Spoiler: he'll completely ignore this comment and just continue to go on saying that all criticisms of conservatives are baseless and unproductive

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'll be honest, the point was less for him and more for lurkers, that might not pay as much attention and might benefit from an outline. I gave up on changing the mind of the person I'm replying to on the internet a long time ago (if it happens great!) ... but I want to challenge and cut through the "noise" for the casual observer.

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[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sort of, but also, Christianity is a death cult that enables child molesters and promotes hate, so there is not much room for subtly. It is also profoundly lacking in any basis of reality and frankly teaches deranged ideas that harm children's ability to make rational judgments about reality.

Also a church is the worst kind of echo chamber.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.one 18 points 2 years ago

Broadly speaking though, it's true. Do you have counter examples to offer?

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[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago

does the law allow a school board to override the law? That seems odd.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago

We all knew they were gonna figure out a way that the law doesn't apply to them and the stuff they like. That's like the fundamental constant of conservatives, it's different when we do it because we're not those people.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago

Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.

Love thy Neighbor, as you would love yourself.

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[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago

TBF understanding that horses are known for their voluminous ejaculation is critical knowledge for children.

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Time to start giving the kids leaflets that highlight all the Communist teachings of Christ. Use The Bible to radicalize the youth!

Betcha they yank the book, tout suite.

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[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 118 points 2 years ago
[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 219 points 2 years ago

A proprietary, for-profit version of Lemmy

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

Ew, sounds gross and like one greedy cunt can ruin everything. Pass

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include "vulgar" content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.

Now to challenge the "significant, serious" value. Truth before law is based on facts, right?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Upthread I suggested leaflets that use chapter and verse to highlight the Communist teachings of The Christ. Radicalize the youth using The Bible!

Betcha they yank the book, almost immediately.

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[-] secret301@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 years ago
[-] FoxBJK@midwest.social 117 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unfortunately not only is Reddit still chugging along, Lemmy is slowly losing users.

Growing new communities is very hard and takes a long time.

EDIT - Adding my source

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It sucks to get to the end of social media. On Reddit I could always find plenty of posts with hundreds of comments and many were worth reading or replying to. Lemmy absolutely has good content and good comments, but you can get to the end where there's no more. It probably doesn't help that I've been much quicker to block people over the cut of their jib. I don't come here to argue or hate people more than I already do, so I spend a lot less time and words embroiled in pointless conflict.

But I still haven't been back to Reddit and won't. When I get to the end of content I find myself going to TikTok or Instagram - two things that I've never liked but at least it's a stress free way to kill time, just louder.

[-] FReddit@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

I feel the same way. On Reddit,, they used to joke that the best material was in the comments.

I've been using Sync and Thunder . There are lots of posts but often no comments at all.

Sometimes it feels like a big cave of silence.

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[-] gabe@literature.cafe 62 points 2 years ago

That law is a complete waste of time. It's inevitable its going to be overturned (if theres at least a shred of common sense in the Virginia courts)

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

The majority of porn sites don't even bother trying to comply with laws like this and there's nothing state governments can do about it.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Yep, sites that wish to comply with the new regulation simply block traffic from those states. Search results for VPNs increase sharply for a few days and nothing really changes.

Laws arn't that easy to pass, makes you think if that effort was put into something constructive instead of reinforcing that prohibition doesn't work...

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[-] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 59 points 2 years ago

Deuteronomy 28:53-57, where you eat the flesh of your own children seems kinda indecent

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Less indecent if it's remnant from the days of a famine.

A mistake a lot of people make in analyzing the text is in assuming the official story about its origin, contents, and authorship is correct outside supernatural stuff.

But there's actually a compelling case Noah was originally a story about escaping a famine, so there may well have been a period when eating the flesh of one's children was a part of the ancestral history of the people transmitting the stories.

The Geeks have similar stories.

It may well be that Deuteronomy 28:48-57 isn't a warning about a certain future event, but a warning from similar things having happened many times before.

Eating your family because an army whose language you don't even know is sieging your city and you are all starving is probably just a fairly common part of many generations of history around the world during those times.

There's much worse things in the Bible than likely representative history.

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[-] Rolando_Cueva@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!!

[-] elevenfingerfrk@lemm.ee 47 points 2 years ago

Judges:19 where a guy throws his side piece to a crowd that wants to rape him in hopes they’ll be satisfied with raping her instead.

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[-] wowsa@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Ah time to quote from Eziekel 23:20...

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish, and the tyranny of evil....wait...23:20? Oh. Well nevermind then.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 51 points 2 years ago

Now I kinda want to hear Sam Jackson say "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."

Also, why the need to specify a distinction between donkey genitals and horse semen? Do horses or donkeys have bigger cocks? Do horses or donkeys cum more? I don't know, but whoever wrote that passage into the Bible seemed to know.

[-] Seudo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Same size cocks but donkey are smaller so they look bigger. In those days a flaccid bee-dick was the mark of a cool-headed thinking man; clearly capable of controlling their profane lust.

And it's not that the average horse smell worse than a donkey, their ass is just closer to most people's nose.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

As they should.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Spez may be a hurensohn but at least Reddit users still have their heads screwed tight.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago

Has someone started reading the other source books? They can't be perfectly clean either.

[-] torpak@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 years ago

Reddit against religion. Hand me the popcorn.

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