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Nine months after Kenneth Smith’s botched lethal injection, state attorney general has asked for approval to kill him with nitrogen

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The only rub against execution to me is the risk of executing the innocent.

Right, so why is that not a total disqualifier then? Even if the risk is fleeting small, there is no taking it back. If it came out later on, dead is dead. Combining that with the fact that executions are obv a psychological cluster fuck for everyone who deals with it, especially the one executed, and the fact that it takes a lot of resources every trial because it's such an unusually cruel punishment, the arguments for it are dwindling.

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You know what else is cruel? People killing other people.

Right but we're not voting someone in office who can eliminate all homicides in the United States. Things are different for execution.

We could also talk about how this "well tough shit" opinion always fucks over positive and healthy change, but that's probably the least impactful argument for the folks who still bank on executions as some sort of greater good.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Read the rest of what I said. There is no doubt here. I do think the death penalty should require a higher standard of guilt. But some people, through their actions, simply have forfeited their right to live.

[-] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Glad to have it straight from the moral arbiter of the universe, someone who feels they can personally determine, from a safe distance, whether someone has forfeited their life. Otherwise I’d be seriously worried the state was carrying out a horribly immoral practice that regularly results in murder of innocents in order to deliver, at best, the short-lived false victory of vengeance, for the low priceof permanently extinguishing of a human life. Which I’ll remind you doesn’t bring back their victims.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I am allowed moral opinion, same as you.

[-] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I know, me pointing out that the pompous way you phrased your opinion made it sound like you thought you were expounding on universal truths isn’t going to stop you. It wasn’t intended to. Maybe if you don’t want pushback next time, avoid the phrase “have forfeited their right to live.”

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Stating my own opinion is “pompous.” Whatever.

[-] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I told you the specific language that sounded pompous, so if you could stop playing the victim, that’d be great.

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