I wouldnt mind the first kind if they didnt have a playbook to defute every single one of your points in a manipulative way. I really don't give a shit what you support as long as it doesn't directly involve hate or oppression, and as long as you don't try to shove it down others throats or try to insult people with opposing views every chance you get.

I imagine a lot of people over im hexbear are chill. I hope so at least. However, every encounter ive had with them, feels like the conservatives over on reddit. They try to 'own' you with loaded talking points, and bad faith arguements.