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[-] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago

Are you just a selfish narcissist who thinks their pleasure is more important than anything else?

I've been a vegan for almost a decade, and I've finally started to see how self-entitled carnists are. How I used to be. I thought that I was entitled to the bodies of other living, sentient beings.

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago
[-] Znarf176@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Maybe you should consider the possibility that some people in some aspects of life really are holier than thou and you could learn from them. Imagine someone pointing out to a serial killer how not killing is more moral and the killer answers with "Holier than thou.". Would this be a good comeback?

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

This is not an equivalent situation, being vegan or vegetarian does not make you legitimately "holier than thou". It is not a virtuous enough decision to be "holier" than the average person, and eating meat is not a bad enough action to be comparable to being a serial killer.

[-] Znarf176@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Just because it is not comparable to a serial killer does not mean that it's not bad enough to warrant a holier label. How do you justify killing and torturing an animal just for taste pleasure?

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I dont kill or torture animals, I support an industry that does by buying the products they create. That is not bad enough of an action for you to be holier.

[-] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Read your comment again, slowly, and tell me you think this is a good argument.

[-] kaj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How bad would be bad enough? Is holiness quantized?

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I can quantify it, and so can you. I cant tell you whos correct.

[-] kaj@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You apparently think there is some lower bound of an action's unholiness such that it won't contribute to an individual's overall holiness. Hence my use of the term quantized, not quantified.

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