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When somebody asks why you're a vegan
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So, where does that put children of migrant workers on your tiered morality list? Their parents pick your vegetables, and often so do they instead of going to school (if they even have school as an option). I'm genuinely curious.
edit: Ah, yes, the silent outrage of drive-by downvoting rather than making the effort to engage in mature discourse. Color me surprised.
You're trying to draw a moral equivalence between being a migrant farm worker and being tortured, raped, and killed. I'm genuinely at a loss for words.
I was asking a sincere question, to be frank, but I can see that's not welcome among your peers here. If I was drawing any moral equivalence though, it would be between said "migrant farm worker" 's inability to provide for their very human child in any way that resembles stability much less any chance to escape the exploitive cycle of our system and an animal "being tortured" "and killed". (I'm not aware of any food product that first rapes the animals, fyi.)
I thought that it was a sincere question. That's why I was at a loss for words.
Dairy. Cows have to be kept pregnant so that they keep producing milk.
I can't tell if you're joking or...
Animals eat a significant chunk of the plant calories we grow, you know.
The food that animals eat from "calories we grow" is ~~not~~ very rarely hand-picked, and so your statement is not relevant in this example, nor helpful in answering my question.
Most food is harvested by machines
The point is that less animals = less food needed. And less people need to grow food
And if some people still need to hand harvest food, well, then that's not an engineering problem, but a political one. And either way irrelevant to your statement, because it was then never about the food needed anyway.
How very convenient for your argument. Typical vegan. Fuck, this whole thread is juvenile. This species is doomed. 😘
"How convenient that reality is aligned with your argument"
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Animals eat food, too. If you eat meat, you're actually creating more demand for crops than you would if you ate the crops directly. Furthermore, migrant workers also work on animal farms, in slaughterhouses, etc. I hear it's not always great.
I guess what I'm saying is, I'm fairly sure that going vegan helps both animals and the children of migrant workers.
One caveat is that I'm assuming you'd eat the same classes of crops that an animal would, namely things like corn and grains. But honestly that sounds about right for most people, vegans included. Many vegans eat a lot of processed shit too lol. (me included)
Edit: I should add that the most commonly suggested vegan diet that I've heard from other vegans is to have rice and lentils as your staple foods. I'm fairly sure those aren't typically harvested by hand, but I could be wrong.